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10/5/12 at 6:38pm
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If you're really creative you can probably fit a stripped Windows 7 32 on it wink.gif. Man Windows 7 is SMALL with some tweaking.
Cool! I don't think it'd run well at all on a Pentium II 233MHz with 64MB (32MB before I upgraded) RAM, though. biggrin.gif
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post #42 of 65
10/5/12 at 6:39pm
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Cool! I don't think it'd run well at all on a Pentium II 233MHz with 64MB (32MB before I upgraded) RAM, though. biggrin.gif

That might be problematic, however. No amount of creative is going to save you there. Lmao... Windows 7 runs pretty terrible on my 1.6 Atom with 1GB of RAM, can't imagine even attempting with 233MHz pentium II haha
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10/5/12 at 6:46pm
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That might be problematic, however. No amount of creative is going to save you there. Lmao... Windows 7 runs pretty terrible on my 1.6 Atom with 1GB of RAM, can't imagine even attempting with 233MHz pentium II haha
Windows 7 wasn't exactly nice on a netbook with a 1.6 GHz Athlon Neo MV-40 with 2GB of DDR2 RAM, either. The P2 machine is the Gateway PC in my rigs, so you can look & laugh if you want! Hey, it was free! xD

EDIT: About the drives in the home server, two of my WDs returned this:
"Idle3 timer set to 80 (0x50)"
So, do I want to disable the idle timer? I'd personally like it to do whatever power-saving it can, until I need it.
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10/5/12 at 6:59pm
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Ah,PCB board replacement,how about simply repair.I have a 1 TB Baracudda where the index key for the power cable broke off.No problem I just paid attention to how I plugged it in,until one day.Long story short,I need to resolder to legs on the PCB.I have not found a tip for my iron small enough yet,and I do have other drives.

EDIT: Reversed power cable equals short circuit,one of my first (and best) mess ups.
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post #45 of 65
10/5/12 at 7:03pm
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Ah,PCB board replacement,how about simply repair.I have a 1 TB Baracudda where the index key for the power cable broke off.No problem I just paid attention to how I plugged it in,until one day.Long story short,I need to resolder to legs on the PCB.I have not found a tip for my iron small enough yet,and I do have other drives.
EDIT: Reversed power cable equals short circuit,one of my first (and best) mess ups.
The Hitachi I want to fix died because I plugged it in while the PC was on...over a Molex connection. One simple Molex > SATA adapter would have allowed me to use the HDD's SATA power connector instead. A bit of time saved, a bunch of data trapped. Never, ever do that. sadsmiley.gif
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As far as I can tell, I like my AALX (FAEX as well) drives, they just never park tongue.gif
Edit: The Seagate ST1000DM003 drives do park, and you can tell every time they do it. Though a firmware update a couple months ago made it less aggressive.
I have a few old Seagates that are pieces of utter junk. They are 7200.10s. I wish you better luck with your Seagate(s) than me! (Umm...I just realized my laptop has a Seagate. I hope it holds up! It's been fine since March.)

One 500GB died because I put it on top of a PSU while running a PC case-less. doh.gif
That PC in question died further on, due to what I think was CPU overheating.
At least I was going to blank the drive anyway! biggrin.gif Now that's a secure blank! (Not!)
Another 500GB died because...it...got some weird bad sector problem.
A 320GB one is chirpy, slow and hot, and I think developed the same problem as the 2nd 500GB one.

As for the drive amount I run in the home server, I have 4, but one is a WD laptop drive. The idle timer is disabled. You can see the models in the rigs.
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post #46 of 65
10/5/12 at 7:04pm
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Windows 7 wasn't exactly nice on a netbook with a 1.6 GHz Athlon Neo MV-40 with 2GB of DDR2 RAM, either. The P2 machine is the Gateway PC in my rigs, so you can look & laugh if you want! Hey, it was free! xD
EDIT: About the drives in the home server, my 3.5" WDs return this:
"Idle3 timer set to 80 (0x50)"
So, do I want to disable the idle timer? I'd personally like it to do whatever power-saving it can, until I need it.

Personally I'd just turn it off if it were me. The power saving by this is negligible unless you run a TON of drives. IIRC, the platters don't spin down, so it still uses enough power to keep the spindle running, also keeping the heads floating only uses a very tiny amount of power on top of that. However I don't read hex, and have no clue how to use WDIDLE. The drives I have have never parked (WD Black), and the Seagate drives fixed themselves with firmware (this is also able to be turned off by disabling HIPM+DIPM.
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Ah,PCB board replacement,how about simply repair.I have a 1 TB Baracudda where the index key for the power cable broke off.No problem I just paid attention to how I plugged it in,until one day.Long story short,I need to resolder to legs on the PCB.I have not found a tip for my iron small enough yet,and I do have other drives.

Personally, I'd try to find a PCB first. As SMD component soldering requires 1) a tiny tip, as you've stated. And 2) Are you sure that this component is the only one that is damaged, and do you know that you will be replacing it with the exact same piece, as far as specifications go? I wouldn't attempt this as it may damage the drive further, unless you know 100% what you're doing here.
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10/5/12 at 7:27pm
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mwz,you are kind of forgetting something throught the entire thread.What you are forgetting is that these are last attempts at drive repair.I/we have pretty much already come to the conclusion our drives are junk and we have little (if anything) to lose.Good points made about drive construction.hdd's are an interest (technicaly,not that I can afford the number I want physicaly) so I appreciate a good technical discussion about the inside of a drive.About my drive.My linux instructor whose day job is with one of those companies with three letters in their name (and deal with data storage) he told me to "forget that drive".
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10/5/12 at 7:32pm
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TL;DR? DON'T OPEN HARD DRIVES!

I disagree. Those magnets are powerful and quite useful for magnetizing my screwdriver sets...
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10/5/12 at 7:34pm
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mwz,you are kind of forgetting something throught the entire thread.What you are forgetting is that these are last attempts at drive repair.I/we have pretty much already come to the conclusion our drives are junk and we have little (if anything) to lose.Good points made about drive construction.hdd's are an interest (technicaly,not that I can afford the number I want physicaly) so I appreciate a good technical discussion about the inside of a drive.About my drive.My linux instructor whose day job is with one of those companies with three letters in their name (and deal with data storage) he told me to "forget that drive".

In that case, go for it. But for the best result, I'd still make sure I did some studying on it. (I've soldered some odd things myself, so I kinda understand you here.) Edit: Still not sure where you might find a soldering tip that small though, the way I've soldered on my tiny devices (which the tip doesn't last very long afterward) is to try sanding it down to a very, small, point.
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forgetting is that these are last attempts at drive repair

OP wasn't about last ditch repair, IIRC- it was something about not taking drives -apart- because the platters are boned afterward tongue.gif PCBs however are a different story.
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technicaly,not that I can afford the number I want physicaly

I have this problem too. Would love a couple more drives, but no money and nowhere to mount them in my case.
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10/5/12 at 7:43pm
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I disagree. Those magnets are powerful and quite useful for magnetizing my screwdriver sets...
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In that case, go for it. But for the best result, I'd still make sure I did some studying on it. (I've soldered some odd things myself, so I kinda understand you here.) Edit: Still not sure where you might find a soldering tip that small though, the way I've soldered on my tiny devices (which the tip doesn't last very long afterward) is to try sanding it down to a very, small, point.
OP wasn't about last ditch repair, IIRC- it was something about not taking drives -apart- because the platters are boned afterward tongue.gif PCBs however are a different story.
I have this problem too. Would love a couple more drives, but no money and nowhere to mount them in my case.
I can relate to that...though, my home server's got quite a bit of storage, so I'm pretty much fine with it. I could certainly make use of a SSD for my laptop! sonic.gif
My hard drive's pretty nice, though...but I think sometimes it can get pretty slow.
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