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I've been building PC's since you could buy components but I've never messed with water. I just got a Bitfenix Prodigy and was pondering going water, but I don't want to loose the optical bay. Which seems to be the best way to go if you want a good water setup. Today I was about 2 seconds away from ordering the Antec Khuler 920 with 2 Cougar fans off Newegg, then I decided to look into something more high end. I know I could mount that vertically and keep my 5.25 intact. So I figured if I'm willing to spend the extra $$$ I could piece together something better than the 920. I don't really have a budget here, I can't spend a lot right now but I can buy 1 piece a week and just tough it out with stock cooling until I have everything. Here's what I'm looking at - my MB's the ASRock Z77e-itx. I have an i5 3570k & will be getting a new Radeon card. Since I don't want to loose my 5.25 bay I know that's going to seriously hinder my options. Here's what I'm eyeballing anyone feel free to add on/change or toss in some advice.


XSPC RayStorm
Phobya DC12-400 pump
Phobya Xtreme single 120mm Radiator
Cougar 120mm fan for radiator
FrozenQ Liquid Fusion V Series 160mm Reservoir
Heatkiller GPU-X³ 79X0 (with backplate)

Now here's my quandary, I don't think I can fit more than a single 120mm radiator in this tiny case, and I don't think 1 would be enough to cool a CPU + video card. My thoughts are to totally remove the HD cages from the front and mount a 2nd single 120mm for the Radeon and have a separate 160mm reservoir for each rad. Does this configuration even make any sense? I'm going to pull the case apart tomorrow and measure to see if I could possibly fit a dual 120mm rad in the back and/or front. Since I've never touched water I'm all ears for any suggestions. At this point I'm not set on buying anything until I have a bit of advice from some experienced people here.
post #2 of 11
You might want to take a look at this build log imgur gallery with the bitfenix prodigy if you haven't already, he fit an XSPC EX240 in the case:

http://imgur.com/a/3iwlG

Hope this helps

EDIT: Also if you haven't seen this one:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1304413/build-log-of-unobtainable-x79-in-a-white-bitfenix-prodigy
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That's a really sick setup, but the rad takes up the entire top which would leave me without my optical drive, which I use a lot.
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I decided to ditch my optical drive and go with an external USB one so I can mount a rad at the top. I've seen a few pics of Prodigy builds where the fans and possibly the rad were mounted outside the case at the top. I can't find any info on how to do this. For anyone who knows Is this a mod that doesn't require a ton of cutting and stuff? It looks really sick imho but I don't have much in the way of tools and I suck with saws and dremels lol.
Edited by quebert - 10/5/12 at 8:34am
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build a bong cooler? whistle.gif
They get really good temps..
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I decided to ditch my optical drive and go with an external USB one so I can mount a rad at the top. I've seen a few pics of Prodigy builds where the fans and possibly the rad were mounted outside the case at the top. I can't find any info on how to do this. For anyone who knows Is this a mod that doesn't require a ton of cutting and stuff? It looks really sick imho but I don't have much in the way of tools and I suck with saws and dremels lol.


Do you mean with an external rad rack? Something like one of these?

http://koolance.com/3-x-120mm-radiator-enclosure-riser-black
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another question, my color scheme's white with orange and black accents. I know it's stupidly expensive but is the FFluid XP+ Nano-Fluid UV orange good looking? I found 2 other brands that offer Orange UV and the couple of reviews say they're crummy UV wise. I can't find a review on the XP+ stuff, but it does looks pretty sweet, at least in the UV picture any ways.
Edited by quebert - 10/6/12 at 1:55am
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DO NOT BUY COOLANT. The only coolant anyone will reccomend to you is Mayhem's Pastel and X1 line. Others tend to gunk up your system and will ultimately affect temps as it gets lodged into the blocks. I'm using Mayhems Pastel mint green in my sig rig and it looks sweet, they have a gigabyte orange color that looks awesome (actually might be changing to it because it matches my cougar vortex fans)
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DO NOT BUY COOLANT. The only coolant anyone will reccomend to you is Mayhem's Pastel and X1 line. Others tend to gunk up your system and will ultimately affect temps as it gets lodged into the blocks. I'm using Mayhems Pastel mint green in my sig rig and it looks sweet, they have a gigabyte orange color that looks awesome (actually might be changing to it because it matches my cougar vortex fans)

I just stumbled on the Mayhems stuff today, the orange definitely looks great, was all ready to order it + some cougar fans but I read that due to the barrings they use they only really work mounted vertically. I'm not sure if this is true but I obviously need to do more research. Also need to check if you can make the Pastel orange UV.
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Not anymore for the cougar fans. I've got 13 in my build right now (mix of 14cm and 12cm) and most of them are horizontal with no issues whatsoever. It was the first batch I guess that had issues but since has been resolved. As for making Pastel orange UV post a question on the mayhem's thread here, Mike (Mayhem) always is around and is always willing to help thumb.gif
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