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post #11 of 17
kinda late to the party, but honestly depends on what kinda video you'll be doing. A nice high end point and shoot could actually be better than a dslr in some cases. Something along the lines of a Sony HX9V, due to its excellent in camera stabilization. If you plan to run and gun this could be a good bet. It would take a lot more money to get the same stabilized shot using a dslr.

Doing video on a dslr kinda sucks. For reference, I have either tried or had actually owned the following Sony A33, Nikon D7000, Canon T3i, Canon 5dmkII. But honestly I would consider returning the D5100 for the Canon T2i or T3i.

You can not manually control the exposure of the video mode in the Nikon D5100, only in the D7000 and up. There are work arounds but why should you have to? Canon cameras can use Canon EF lenses as well as Nikon lenses with adapters. Nikon can not use Canon ef lenses. PS, you can not change the aperture of a nikon lens while the camera is in live mode. So you can not change the exposure while you're recording unless you have a manual aperture lens. You'd have to resort to changing shutter speed or ISO, kinda a bummer. +Magic lantern for canon cameras is awesome.

But if you're just starting out try this video from nikon
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Thanks for the video, that was informative! I wish my camera had come in when it was supposed to but now I have to wait until Monday. Anyway, here is CNET's graph comparing the T3i and the D5100. Looks like it stacks up pretty good for $50 less (and does indeed allow for manual control of exposure during video)...

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post #13 of 17
Do a quick search on YouTube Nikon d5100 manual video control. Either way the d5100 is a great camera. There are some other recommendation I could give if you still wanna consider other options. Good luck with your videos

edit: the cnet comparison is wrong. D5100 doesn't have manual exposure. You have to work around using older manual lenses from what i've seen. Unless nikon released a firmware update in the past 6 months or so.
Edited by soymilk - 10/6/12 at 6:22pm
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Sorry to hijack this thread but I'm in the same boat - where's the cheapest safest place to buy and what's a recommended lens to start with? 18-55mm pretty standard?

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B&H/Adorama/Amazon/Local Store

18-55 is fine for beginners. If you find you shoot at the long end quite often and have difficulty shooting in low light, you can pick up a cheap 50mm/1.8 -- Nikon, Canon, Pentax, etc. Pick your poison. Canon is probably best for video at any price point below $3000.
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I ended up with the Nikon D5100 though I'm still a bit overwhelmed by it so far. Lots of learning to do (wish I could just d/l the skills like in the Matrix)...
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

I ended up with the Nikon D5100 though I'm still a bit overwhelmed by it so far. Lots of learning to do (wish I could just d/l the skills like in the Matrix)...

what about it is overwhelming?

for video on a DSLR set your shutter speed based on framerate.

if you are at 30fps set your shutter speed to 1/60, if shooting at 24fps use the same shutter speed.

then adjust aperture and ISO to get proper exposure.


if you have specific question dont be afraid to post and ask. thumb.gif
    
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