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I'd agree, going for at least a 660ti seems like the best way to go here. Personally, I'd play it safe and go with a 670, but since it's quite a bit more expensive you would have to either up the budget or cut costs in other places, which doesn't seem like a particularly good idea.

As it stands now, I'd say go for the 660ti!
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GPU + "Rendering"
Guys, plz, "rendering" rarely involves GPU acceleration: it has to the requirement for VRay RT GPU, Octane etc unbiased GPU renderers to be positive that he/she will be in need of a fast CUDA card.
There is VRay RT for Rhino, but it is CPU based only.

GPUs are used in CAD programs mainly for viewport acceleration - aka decent fps when you manipulate geometries: wireframes / shaded views / textured views etc.
For viewport acceleration, most GTX cards perform relatively the same - there is actually pretty little change since the 2xx GTXs...

3DS Max and mental ray include in the latest versions iRay, the GPU accelerated version of mental ray that DOESN'T support kepler yet, thus no desktop 6xx GT and GTX card.

If don't know what kind of programs you will be using, but outside of 3DS and its Nitrous/D3D (3DS is not a industrial designers tool exactly) based viewport performance, Radeons are in general faster than GeForce cards. Rhino, Solidworks, Wildfire and OpenGL in general runs better on AMD cards, so I would suggest a mid-range AMD card any day over even a faster in theory GTX. Gaming performance is a different story.


I understand that you are on a bugdet - with prices much different that what the US market has to offer - especially now that November is closing up and offers will be flying around.

CPU: I would try to get a 3770K CPU, to have the overclocking potential open for the future.
MoBo:A mid-range Z77 board from any manufacturer will most likely allow you a respectable O/C - I would get one instead of a H77 board.
SSD:The most "redundant" part in your built is the SSD: surely it does help to speed up load times etc, but I would definitely start with a better CPU/Mobo/GPU/PSU, and leave the SSD for last.
PSU:A 600W PSU will be enough even for overclocking etc, but get a quality one from a known manufacturer.
Case:The case is fine - no need for fancier stuff when you are on a budget.
RAM:I agree on the Samsung DDR3 PC1600 2 x 4GB kit. It is cheap, compact in size, runs cool and overclocks like a champ, beating much more expensive and ornamented kits. Heat-spreaders are a hoax - yes, some look ultra cool, but are not always needed, and when those are, you don't need the huge heasinks many of the expensive kits fit just to make their price look more justifiable.
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post #13 of 24
Just a note: If you plan to do some serious rendering and modeling, 16GB RAM might be considerable since I have 8GB and usage while rendering in AAE goes around 7.8GB.
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post #14 of 24
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the reply dtolios!thumb.gif

Yeap, i am on a budget and prices here in Australia seem to be much pricier than US market.
Based on all you guys' suggestions, i am thinking of getting,
i7 3770k
z77 mobo
Corsair GS600
16gb ram
maybe SSD or not depends on the budget

What GPU could you recommend based on these?
I still think 660ti or 670 are rather high end and overkill for me. and also expensive

Since GPU is not comparably necessary on rendering, i might want to save some money on it.biggrin.gif
Kindly suggest some you might think of biggrin.gif thanks
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3d?you LL need raid 10 ssd
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Change the PSU to TX series or seasonic or Rosewill green NVM
Edited by Makyl - 10/5/12 at 3:09pm
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I'm going to suggest a 6-core cpu..and some RAID..
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by compuman145 View Post

MOrning mate,
Well I'm going to be honest with you on this one, there are problems with your setup, i'd make the following changes.
Ditch the gtx650, it's shocking. Go with a GTX670 since you'll be doing rendering and depending on the application it will make use of this.
If 3d rendering is the priority he should be spending his money on a workstation card, a Tesla or Firepro. If he is gaming at 1920x1080 than he should get something a little better that fits in his budget.
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Originally Posted by compuman145 
Drop the SSD and put this towards your GPU, if you really don't want to lose the SSD then go with the crucial M4 new version since it'll be cheaper and just as good.
I have to disagree a little bit with you here. Do NOT drop the SSD, it makes such a huge difference in the responsiveness of your computer. The Intel SSD you have picked is a great drive and at a reasonable price, the M4 is a fine drive too but I see no reason to switch.
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Originally Posted by compuman145 
NEver heard of widetech as a PSU supplier, i'd point out that this is a big thing with your machine, you need to stick to the big three, Corsair, antec and xfx. Howver the wattage is fine.
I agree with you here all the way. Antec, Seasonic, Corsair (they just re-brand other manufacturer's psu) are all good people to buy your psu from.
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Originally Posted by compuman145 
Don't get a single 2tb drive, if that fails everything is gone, go with two 1tb drives so you can have backups and still run with a single drive if one fails.
Honestly there are a lot of different ways to worry about storage and backups. If the data is very important to OP then he should be doing multi-level backup. So perhaps a RAID 1 like you suggest but also a cloud based solution like Carbonite, Dropbox, Google Drive, etc. Some of my business customers will also have network based backups locally and offsite backup, and/or tape backup placed in a fire safe every night. It all depends on how important the data.
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Originally Posted by compuman145 
The memory is fine.
Memory is fine although almost any memory is fine. I would recommend going with an 8GB stick as your price will probably be similar and it will leave you with more room to upgrade down the line.
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Originally Posted by compuman145 
Change your motherboard fgrom an H77 board to a Z77 board, they do the Z77 equivilent of that board anyway.
The OP may well not need a Z77 chipset board. As long as OP will never use more than one GPU and will NOT overclock their CPU than it is fine. Otherwise I agree he should look at Z77. Gigabyte makes a Z77 board I like a lot:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128551
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544
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Originally Posted by compuman145 
The processor is fine since you'll be using the hyperthreading, if you're not 100% on whether you will or not you can save some money and go with the i5 which will be slightly slower but will save you a large chunk.
CPU is perfect as long as it fits your price range.
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Lastly, the GPU really is bad, two of those won't match a single 660ti even if you put two in SLi... They are pure entry level.
The GTX660 is a good option. I totally forgot you are doing design work! Stay away from the gaming cards, look at something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195112
Quadro 600 series is a good budget option, if you have more money you can look at Quadro 4000 or 5000.
Edited by Mygaffer - 10/5/12 at 5:38pm
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