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Here is my thinking.... Screw the i7 3820 AND the i7 3770K. Go for the gold and get the i7 3930K.
For 20 bucks more (during the motherboard sale) you can get this motherboard.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128562 and the i7 3930K http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=64992&vpn=BX80619I73930K&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1381 and have a much better system than you would if you were to throw all your money at the motherboard itself.
The gigabyte UP4 has 8 memory channels, 4 way SLI, and the new power phase units that gigabyte has produced. So you are not loosing much of anything other than maybe LN2 functionality.
What you gain though is 2 more cores with 4 more threads. It is fairly easy to overclock this thing wayyyyy beyond the basic i7 3820 which will be beneficial when you throw multiple GPUs in your system.
So in the end, for 20 bucks more, you turn a decent configuration into a beast.

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Do you now know what a 3820 is capable of?
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Do you now know what a 3820 is capable of?

Yeah, which is precisely why if he doesn't get the 3930K, the i7 3770K would be a better choice. (Especially considering that the OP shouldn't be going above triple SLI, unless he is doing benchmarks or something).

proof.gif http://www.anandtech.com/show/5771/the-intel-ivy-bridge-core-i7-3770k-review/6 http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/523?vs=551

Some important things to keep in mind about these two sources. Both CPUs are running at the exact same clock speed and the 3770K actually has less cache than the 3820. The nice thing about this comparison is that it shows that the only true difference between the 3770K and the 3820 is the architecture of the actual processor.

Another thing to keep in mind is that while the 3820 has a theoretical OC limitation of 4.8(ish) ghz, the more common stable of of the chip is 4.5ghz. The 3930K can go up to 4.8-5ghz with proper cooling. The i7 3770K can usually get up to 4.7- 4.8 ghz before you start running into temperature and voltage issues.

I do recognize that overclocking potential is based on the chip itself, but you simply can't compare the overclocking potential of the 3820 to any K based processor in the average circumstance (You could always find a golden 3820 that would make my argument pointless)

Now the only reason I am not saying to go for the 3770K is because the X79 platform will be better for multiple GPUs. That means that he is left with the 3930K as the best choice. And since the motherboard change is not going to affect the overclocking potential or feature set of the motherboard (unless of course your are REALLY into benching), then the best logical setup would be a i7 3930K in a reasonably priced mobo.
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Yeah, which is precisely why if he doesn't get the 3930K, the i7 3770K would be a better choice. (Especially considering that the OP shouldn't be going above triple SLI, unless he is doing benchmarks or something).
proof.gif http://www.anandtech.com/show/5771/the-intel-ivy-bridge-core-i7-3770k-review/6 http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/523?vs=551
Some important things to keep in mind about these two sources. Both CPUs are running at the exact same clock speed and the 3770K actually has less cache than the 3820. The nice thing about this comparison is that it shows that the only true difference between the 3770K and the 3820 is the architecture of the actual processor.
Another thing to keep in mind is that while the 3820 has a theoretical OC limitation of 4.8(ish) ghz, the more common stable of of the chip is 4.5ghz. The 3930K can go up to 4.8-5ghz with proper cooling. The i7 3770K can usually get up to 4.7- 4.8 ghz before you start running into temperature and voltage issues.
I do recognize that overclocking potential is based on the chip itself, but you simply can't compare the overclocking potential of the 3820 to any K based processor in the average circumstance (You could always find a golden 3820 that would make my argument pointless)
Now the only reason I am not saying to go for the 3770K is because the X79 platform will be better for multiple GPUs. That means that he is left with the 3930K as the best choice. And since the motherboard change is not going to affect the overclocking potential or feature set of the motherboard (unless of course your are REALLY into benching), then the best logical setup would be a i7 3930K in a reasonably priced mobo.



What seems to be a commonality with you ivy fans is that you have no real experience with the platforms you're recommending against. rolleyes.gif

I've had three 3820s and they all did 5ghz. This is borderline special ed. An overclocked 3820 has no problems feeding quad 7970s max clocked, and beating a host of 3960s and 3930 and everything else in between. Another fact, the z77 platform WILL BE SLOWER due to the PLX chip.
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What seems to be a commonality with you ivy fans is that you have no real experience with the platforms you're recommending against. rolleyes.gif
I've had three 3820s and they all did 5ghz. This is borderline special ed. An overclocked 3820 has no problems feeding quad 7970s max clocked, and beating a host of 3960s and 3930 and everything else in between. Another fact, the z77 platform WILL BE SLOWER due to the PLX chip.

Depends on what your doing with your rig, In gaming Z77 isn't slower
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Depends on what your doing with your rig, In gaming Z77 isn't slower


Go look up the reviews on the z77 platform when combined with a PLX chip and check back here. Thx. thumb.gif
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I currently own both 3570k and 3770k, and previously had several 3820's and 3930k's. The 3820 is great bang for your buck chip especially if you can snag it at MC for $229. It was superior to the 3770k so far as the fact that it overclocked better and ran cooler, by the time my 3820's were hitting the temps my 3770k and 3570k do, they were past 5ghz while my IB chips muddle along in the 4.2 to 4.4 range as I've not been lucky with the chip lottery. IB's IPC advantage is cancelled out by the inability of the majority of chips to run a heavy OC without custom cooling, de-lidding, etc. For multiple GPU's especially I would choose X79 every time, no thank you on the PLX chips. I've had a few boards with them (MIVE comes to mind) and the performance was not especially good compared to native lanes.

I would also hesitate to buy a RIVE at this point though, considering Asus' RMA shenanigans with the last board I sent in, a P9X79 Pro. I would look at ASRock, Gigabyte, or MSI 4-slot boards first and pay less for the same performance just without the red PCB.
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Go look up the reviews on the z77 platform when combined with a PLX chip and check back here. Thx. thumb.gif

Im not talking about 2-4 way sli / crossfire rolleyes.gif

for 99% of users this info is irrelevent, If your going to invest in 3-4 way sli / cfx then you would be daft not to buy x79 for that reason
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Im not talking about 2-4 way sli / crossfire rolleyes.gif
for 99% of users this info is irrelevent, If your going to invest in 3-4 way sli / cfx then you would be daft not to buy x79 for that reason


Then why the heck are you all up in my business for?
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I Plan to have at least 2-4 Graphic cards as well.
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Then why the heck are you all up in my business for?

I did say 99% op not included, chill out you live longer
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I did say 99% op not included, chill out you live longer


Rofl. Is this thread about the 99% of the users or is it about somebody looking to go quad SLI/CFX? Which would make it directly applicable to this 1%.
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