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And still they insist in the ultrabooks.
Geez! They're DEAD!! They don't sell crap, their performance is seriously lacking, their battery duration is below notebooks, and their weight savings... Well, they just aren't there.


What!?!?.
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Totally agree on the looks. Dark grey vs. light grey? Ewww.


Headphone jack between ports? Disgusting.


I wish these ultrabooks would get some sense of style.
Edit: Forget to mention my disgust for a 1920x1080 IPS panel. So last decade. 1440x900 TN is where it's at. Go MBA!
Asus is soooooo gonna get sued.
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Asus is soooooo gonna get sued.

Apple is sooooooo gonna get sued.

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Personally, while I loathe apple I have to say that ultrabooks have been a huge disappointment. They really aren't any cheaper than the macbook airs or non retina macs - and they should be. Perhaps the worst part of all is that ultrabooks use HDMI for external display output. This really sucks because it is limited to 1080p. (the HDMI spec used only allows for 1080p on ultrabooks)

Anyway, I certainly hope intel succeeds. Its pretty hilarious seeing the hubris of ARM, basically talking smack about how intel will never catch up to them in terms of power consumption. Perhaps they forgot that intel has boatloads of cash and can make it happen in time - and intel already has a tremendous, tremendous performance advantage over any ARM part. ARM can only brag about power use and that is it. Oh yeah. Screw apple. I hope they do switch to a non intel part.
Edited by xoleras - 10/5/12 at 10:01pm
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there will never be a reason to buy an ultra book with Macbook Air's and Macbook Pros existing

Unless, of course, you don't want a Mac.

I'm not at all fond of OSX, and dollar for dollar, Mac hardware (other than batteries and displays) is anemic compared to many other makers.
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Yep, Haswell puts them on the CPU.

As noted earlier, that is not a Haswell board. It's from 2005 and is socket 775.
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No they don't. Every UltraBook in the market is trying to become another MacBook Air. They may have the specs but they just don't have the looks which 99% people look for. Thats the reason I went for the Air instead of an ultrabook.

Looks are at the absolute bottom of my list of priorities.

Not that I think MBA clones don't generally look perfectly acceptable.
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Personally, while I loathe apple I have to say that ultrabooks have been a huge disappointment. They really aren't any cheaper than the macbook airs or non retina macs - and they should be.

I agree.

However, as the form factor becomes more popular, the systems will get better and cheaper. Novelties are always expensive.
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The problem with ultrabooks is that they are often more expensive than the macbook air, yet have design flaws that make me hesitant to buy. For instance, trackpads. NOBODY can get them right, very few can anyway. Other point - as mentioned, HDMI is worthless because I can't use it on my 2560x1600 monitor. HDMI max output on ultrabooks is 1080p. Worthless.

Macbook air has none of these flaws, and its cheaper or the same price in most cases. Intel really screwed the pooch with ultrabooks, they could have been much better. As someone who hates apple, this situation is frustrating to say the least.
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The problem with ultrabooks is that they are often more expensive than the macbook air, yet have design flaws that make me hesitant to buy. For instance, trackpads. NOBODY can get them right, very few can anyway. Other point - as mentioned, HDMI is worthless because I can't use it on my 2560x1600 monitor. HDMI max output on ultrabooks is 1080p. Worthless.
Macbook air has none of these flaws, and its cheaper or the same price in most cases. Intel really screwed the pooch with ultrabooks, they could have been much better. As someone who hates apple, this situation is frustrating to say the least.

I must confess I love the trackpad on my mac and fully agree that it is a major selling point.

Oh the downside, literally as I was typing that sentence my magsafe charger stopped working, that will be the 4th one that broke on me mad.gifmad.gif
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Yep, Haswell puts them on the CPU.

As noted earlier, that is not a Haswell board. It's from 2005 and is socket 775.

I know, but wasn't part of the improvements with Haswell due to moving the VRMs on die?
    
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I know, but wasn't part of the improvements with Haswell due to moving the VRMs on die?

Depends on what you consider "improvement", but yes, one of the factors that will allow Haswell to better manage it's power consumption is the integration of VRM components onto the die.
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I don't think Intel wanted to compete with Apple. It's far more likely that the ultrabook push both expands the market for Intel's ooh so expensive (read overpriced) ULV chips while at the same time creates demand for Intel's chips increasing prices further.
A great side effect is that it helps keep ARM and MIPS out of the laptop market.

They wanted to get into that market, but didn't take into account that Apple is already in it. And Apple computers are trend icon, just like Sony's VAIO was back in the day. So I think trying to get Apple to build computers using their ULV chips would have been a better idea than trying to start a venture of their own, especially after seeing those sale numbers...

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Edit: that kind of came out wrong. I think that if Intel wants a better Windows, they should be barking up Microsoft's tree, not going after the OEMs.

Yeah. That makes more sense than Intel pursuing the OEMs thumb.gif

But a clean install of Windows works pretty well. In fact, I think most of us who run Windows run regular installations. Still, MS should impose greater limitations on what bloat OEMs can bundle into their machines.
   
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