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Originally Posted by Systemlord View Post

I think the idea behind using those ultra thin metal piece is it might just be the safest way to delid without harming the PCB! Just for the hell of it I pulled my brother's 2001 Pentium 4 1.6GHz CPU out today and this sucker requires (printed on CPU) a Vcore of 1.75V, mind you that's the minumum voltages for this chip! It even has the pins sticking out like AMD's CPU's!

wow 1.75V ..lol, i had my 3770k at that voltage ..haha..shhht wink.gif

you gonna try de-lid it? with plastic card or thin metal piece?

thought plastic was better then metal, when it comes to scratching the pcb..
maybe im totally wrong, and what the guy is using in the vid, is metal too, doesnt look like it tho..
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Originally Posted by itinerant View Post

For those who have done it... would dental floss work? Would it mitigate the chance of scratching the PCB, and more importantly, could it cut through the glue?

also, im curious how this would work, or something similar..
Edited by VonDutch - 10/19/12 at 3:27am
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Originally Posted by Powermonkey500 View Post

Fell back to 4.9GHz. It takes substantially less VCore.
For some reason, 5GHz was working and passing every test I threw at it, but a lot of my applications were crashing. Normal?
Anyway, 4.9GHz looks to be the upper limit of my chip without having to crank the voltage a huge amount for only 100MHz.

Because it wasn't a stable over clock.
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Gratz, very nice thumb.gif
o, i just noticed, 1.56V vcore? intel says 1.52V vcore max, 1.55V is max. set by others..
wouldnt recommend that for a daily OC ..lol biggrin.gif
1.4V maybe, 1.30-1.35V vcore for daily OC's

we dont know much yet about degradation over longer time,
but better be safe then srry right smile.gif


Yeah, I've cranked it down considerably since that validation was taken. I kind of cranked the voltage then saw how high I could get the multi. Probably not the best way to do it.
Anyway, work in progress. I'll check back with my *decent* voltages and max OC.
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Yeah, I've cranked it down considerably since that validation was taken. I kind of cranked the voltage then saw how high I could get the multi. Probably not the best way to do it.
Anyway, work in progress. I'll check back with my *decent* voltages and max OC.

It's not the best way cause there's a sweetspot to be found, most often than not temps limit your max clock stability, even when delidding, voltage does that...So go in tiny increments and monitor vcore under load in cpu-z , that's what matters.
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

It's not the best way cause there's a sweetspot to be found, most often than not temps limit your max clock stability, even when delidding, voltage does that...So go in tiny increments and monitor vcore under load in cpu-z , that's what matters.

I'm not a patient man.
I reverted back to the proper way, like you're saying - I'll also see if there are any other voltages in play stopping me from hitting 5GHz (PLL maybe?)

Edit: It's funny, I know exactly how to do it, I've done it before, but my impatience leads to my noobiness. Hahaha.
Edited by Powermonkey500 - 10/19/12 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by Powermonkey500 View Post

I'm not a patient man.
I reverted back to the proper way, like you're saying - I'll also see if there are any other voltages in play stopping me from hitting 5GHz (PLL maybe?)
Edit: It's funny, I know exactly how to do it, I've done it before, but my impatience leads to my noobiness. Hahaha.

Hehehe, happens to everyone...
Internal pll overvoltage helped me a great deal, and leaving pll volts at 1.8v did too. Also try bumping imc voltage 0.005v below vtt. That did a HUGE difference stability wise for me. I could bench at 5ghz no prob, even without delidding.
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This by far my favorite thread/club on OCN. Def the Most fun! wink.gif
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A. Have no idea how to totaly erase BIOS. Im looking in the manual, but dont see it. Can you explain?
B. I dont see anything diff, except it keeps wanting to throw my BLCK to 103 when it used to be 102.5.

clear CMOS - normally a jumper on the MB or a switch on higher-end boards - totally clears out old saved BIOS settings and profiles - some even take out the on-board battery for 10min to make sure everything saved goes away...check your manual or do a google search on clearing your MB CMOS - hope that helps get your OC back smile.gif
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clear CMOS - normally a jumper on the MB or a switch on higher-end boards - totally clears out old saved BIOS settings and profiles - some even take out the on-board battery for 10min to make sure everything saved goes away...check your manual or do a google search on clearing your MB CMOS - hope that helps get your OC back smile.gif

Yeah, I did that, Stellamonster rec the same thing. Got my old bios to work again, so Rep to both of you. But new bios still wonkie. Oh well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it I guess is the lesson learned here. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Hehehe, happens to everyone...
Internal pll overvoltage helped me a great deal, and leaving pll volts at 1.8v did too. Also try bumping imc voltage 0.005v below vtt. That did a HUGE difference stability wise for me. I could bench at 5ghz no prob, even without delidding.

Nice info ivanlabrie. I'll give it a try. Have you been able to determine if the problem was your delidding the chip or the MB? I may have missed the outcome/news on how that turned out.....


After my 3770K fatality (and fresh avatar choice), my new 3770K was able to hit 5.1GHz @ 1.48v thumb.gif - but it BSOD'ed very soon after that. Not even able to run superpi....

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2548916

IBT used to do 10 default passes easily & repeatedly at 4.6GHz @ ~1.22v, now it needs to be at ~1.32+v to even run, and it has the hi temps in 90s-100sC that go with that voltage. rolleyes.gif

Prime95 used to be stable for 18+hrs at 4.5GHz @ 1.232v, but I have yet to get prime to run stable so far with vcore up to 1.33v for 4.6GHz. I'll try higher vcore after work today. Oh joy....

Not a good chip. I also used CL Ultra on it already....frown.gif (I know - not a good idea, but I really wanted to try it instead of AS5, and I was opptimistic my chances of a simular or better chip were ~66%!)

But I can still use my computer for gaming and everything else I need to do, just not as much fun doing one of my favorite activities - OC'ing!!! biggrin.gif

Still, trying to see how far I can take this chip is a challenge....smile.gif
Edited by PCWargamer - 10/19/12 at 8:19am
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