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Originally Posted by MikeG View Post

So Liquid Ultra has a higher thermal conductivity than Liquid Pro? Rats! I'm using Liquid Pro.mad.gif

thats true, but somehow most of the time pro performs a bit better, not sure why tho,
and i didnt really test it myself yet,
overall theres not much difference between the two..so no worries smile.gif
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Easy: NEVER use private couriers for international shipping, use USPS or China post or whatever.

@VonDutch: if anything I prefer the needle the pro comes with, and I think it's easier to spread on the die than Ultra. Also, I have a bit of faith that the purest metal alloy in it will help with tim pump out, whereas Ultra might pump a bit to the sides with tim, being a more complex mixture. That's just speculation though...
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From VonDutch's post:
"I don't know if this is common knowledge, so my apologies in advance if I am insulting you by stating something everyone knows, but I have it on good authority from Intel employees that Haswell desktop chips will also be TIM and not solder."

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does that mean we can infer Haswell will need to be delidded too, or is it possible Intel learned something from their Ivy mistake?
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From VonDutch's post:
"I don't know if this is common knowledge, so my apologies in advance if I am insulting you by stating something everyone knows, but I have it on good authority from Intel employees that Haswell desktop chips will also be TIM and not solder."

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does that mean we can infer Haswell will need to be delidded too, or is it possible Intel learned something from their Ivy mistake?

I'll go ask lol. Also if they use TIM maybe they will fix the IHS issue and then we wont need to delid buuuut if we need to I'll go ahead and delid on as well. thumb.gif
post #10525 of 33695
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

@VonDutch: if anything I prefer the needle the pro comes with, and I think it's easier to spread on the die than Ultra. Also, I have a bit of faith that the purest metal alloy in it will help with tim pump out, whereas Ultra might pump a bit to the sides with tim, being a more complex mixture. That's just speculation though...

you have a point there, ultra does contain more components then pro,
i looked for it once,
but thanks to it being a liquid, both have less problems with pump-out,
it doesnt harden (as quick) like other tims, it just flows back,
while normal tim gets warm, then pumped out, and gets "solid" again much faster,

yea, i like the pro better, the needle is better i think,
if i look at others and how fast they use it all, compared to
howmany applications i did with it, but im curious now about
Ultra, and how its gonna work for me..next month i have money to buy some

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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

From VonDutch's post:
"I don't know if this is common knowledge, so my apologies in advance if I am insulting you by stating something everyone knows, but I have it on good authority from Intel employees that Haswell desktop chips will also be TIM and not solder."

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does that mean we can infer Haswell will need to be delidded too, or is it possible Intel learned something from their Ivy mistake?

we can only hope intel learned from their mistake,
if not ..yea, it prolly gonna be delid time again with haswell ...yippie!! ..lol biggrin.gif
i think im gonna skip a generation anyways ..

bedtime, G'night guys smile.gif
Edited by VonDutch - 1/31/13 at 2:01pm
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Ugh, guys I can't believe these guys at a local forum...they keep arguing non-sense justifying their advice by saying 'I own an H60 it's great and better than most air coolers' bla bla.
Then they can't deal with the hard facts presented by me, in the form of tons of review links showing a lot of air coolers beating that crappy aio out of the glycol* (water lol), and still they keep arguing back.
'I have a Cm V6 and it's quiet, I'd reccomend Deepcool coolers over that HR-02 Macho you reccomend, or an h60'
That thing is NOT quiet, you can see it in tons of reviews.
They say the reviewers are paid by the companies and bla bla...man I'm pissed, I hate it when people proclaim personal experience and biased claims as fact.
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Ugh, guys I can't believe these guys at a local forum...they keep arguing non-sense justifying their advice by saying 'I own an H60 it's great and better than most air coolers' bla bla.
Then they can't deal with the hard facts presented by me, in the form of tons of review links showing a lot of air coolers beating that crappy aio out of the glycol* (water lol), and still they keep arguing back.
'I have a Cm V6 and it's quiet, I'd reccomend Deepcool coolers over that HR-02 Macho you reccomend, or an h60'
That thing is NOT quiet, you can see it in tons of reviews.
They say the reviewers are paid by the companies and bla bla...man I'm pissed, I hate it when people proclaim personal experience and biased claims as fact.

yeah I agree fully. there was a while back a guy who didn't understand why I delidded and I showed him my initial post of Mhz temps drops and everything... and he was like.,.... it didnt drop at all though! you risked your chip for nothing!..... I'm thinking what are you smoking!? mad.gif
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Is an air cooler as good as a liquid cooler though? I would have thought a liquid cooler is not only cooler but also more silent?
post #10529 of 33695
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Is an air cooler as good as a liquid cooler though? I would have thought a liquid cooler is not only cooler but also more silent?

The closed circuit "all in one" loops are roughly equal to good air. A custom loop is better.
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Is an air cooler as good as a liquid cooler though? I would have thought a liquid cooler is not only cooler but also more silent?

Thats usually the general thought process but sometimes it isn't true at all. Some aircooler like the NH-D14 have very good and quiet fans and can perform as good or even better than an H100. for great aircoolers/watercoolers like H100 etc etc you need great fans like the Noctua brand of Cougars, both are amazingly quiet and are very good for static pressure and airflow. albeit more expensive but well worth it most of the time.
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