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First, it's good to have both the choice and also some time to make it (...anticipation is half the fun biggrin.gif ) . If you have even more budget and time, I would actually wait for the IB-E (September 1), because from what I have read, that will be a much bigger step-up - and one I'm waiting for biggrin.gif

That said, owning 3 Ivy Bridge 3770 (K and non K), my understanding is that Haswell (4770K) will outperform it mostly on video - iGPU which accounts for most of the increase of Tjmax from 77 to 86 watts.

Now, if you plan to run with either just iGPU or 1 lower-end discreet GPU (combined with iGPU through Lucid VirtueMVP), then Haswell may be worth waiting for...however, otherwise (including SLI/CF) I would buy IvyBridge and invest the difference in a nice set of video cards - or perhaps even the GTX 780 or Titan if the budget allows (expected to hit the market in late February) smile.gif

EDIT: Here is a link to a Russian site (use Google translator) with the first Haswell test results / comparison with IvyBridge (or my translator is broken and this is a recipe for eggplant pizza smile.gif ) http://oclab.ru/news/pervyie-rezultatyi-testirovaniya-protsessora-haswell-v-populyarnyih-prilozheniyah

Thanks! That's a really helpful perspective. I personally do a fair amount of gaming and I do a bit of video editing stuff on the side as well as running Virtual Machines from time to time. I was thinking of getting a GTX 780 too. The way you spun it I think I might wait for IB-E biggrin.gif If it comes out in September I should have just had my first month's pay on a raise (I'm expecting a big one this year) so I'll be feeling a bit more wealthy.
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First, it's good to have both the choice and also some time to make it (...anticipation is half the fun biggrin.gif ) . If you have even more budget and time, I would actually wait for the IB-E (September 1), because from what I have read, that will be a much bigger step-up - and one I'm waiting for biggrin.gif

That said, owning 3 Ivy Bridge 3770 (K and non K), my understanding is that Haswell (4770K) will outperform it mostly on video - iGPU which accounts for most of the increase of Tjmax from 77 to 86 watts.

Now, if you plan to run with either just iGPU or 1 lower-end discreet GPU (combined with iGPU through Lucid VirtueMVP), then Haswell may be worth waiting for...however, otherwise (including SLI/CF) I would buy IvyBridge and invest the difference in a nice set of video cards - or perhaps even the GTX 780 or Titan if the budget allows (expected to hit the market in late February) smile.gif

EDIT: Here is a link to a Russian site (use Google translator) with the first Haswell test results / comparison with IvyBridge (or my translator is broken and this is a recipe for eggplant pizza smile.gif ) http://oclab.ru/news/pervyie-rezultatyi-testirovaniya-protsessora-haswell-v-populyarnyih-prilozheniyah

Thanks! That's a really helpful perspective. I personally do a fair amount of gaming and I do a bit of video editing stuff on the side as well as running Virtual Machines from time to time. I was thinking of getting a GTX 780 too. The way you spun it I think I might wait for IB-E biggrin.gif If it comes out in September I should have just had my first month's pay on a raise (I'm expecting a big one this year) so I'll be feeling a bit more wealthy.

STOP POSTING! Everytime I see your avatar, I fall in love again. frown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.gif
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STOP POSTING! Everytime I see your avatar, I fall in love again. frown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.gif

LOL!

By the way, congrats on your drivers license from quite a few pages ago. I just got mine on Jan 4th.biggrin.gif
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STOP POSTING! Everytime I see your avatar, I fall in love again. frown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.gif

I got one of those cingy congs at home.. Make up does wonders.. my wife is not wearing any in this pic however..



hmmm demon eyes..




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STOP POSTING! Everytime I see your avatar, I fall in love again. frown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.giffrown.gif

LOL!

By the way, congrats on your drivers license from quite a few pages ago. I just got mine on Jan 4th.biggrin.gif

Thanks, congrats too on yours. tongue.gif Have you gotten your car yet or what? I hate how you have to pay for insurance... frown.gif It costs me $350/month! For just liability, not even covering the car...
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Thanks, congrats too on yours. tongue.gif Have you gotten your car yet or what? I hate how you have to pay for insurance... frown.gif It costs me $350/month! For just liability, not even covering the car...

For now I'm borrowing a car that belongs to my parents. Fortunately because it's in my father's name with a long and safe driving history the insurance is only $160p/m comprehensive. And I am still covered by that lol, before I started driving it the insurance was only $80p/m for him. I'm shopping around for the right car at the moment but I have something specific in mind so I need to find just the right one.biggrin.gif
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Thanks, congrats too on yours. tongue.gif Have you gotten your car yet or what? I hate how you have to pay for insurance... frown.gif It costs me $350/month! For just liability, not even covering the car...

For now I'm borrowing a car that belongs to my parents. Fortunately because it's in my father's name with a long and safe driving history the insurance is only $160p/m comprehensive. And I am still covered by that lol, before I started driving it the insurance was only $80p/m for him. I'm shopping around for the right car at the moment but I have something specific in mind so I need to find just the right one.biggrin.gif

What car are you thinking about? Also, you mean secondary driver right? We have 4 cars in my household and only 3 of us drives so I can't get secondary driver. tongue.gif It's a bit annoying but what can you do?
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What car are you thinking about? Also, you mean secondary driver right? We have 4 cars in my household and only 3 of us drives so I can't get secondary driver. tongue.gif It's a bit annoying but what can you do?



A Nissan Pulsar SSS N15 in Moody Blue haha. I may have to cave and go for a different colour if a clean enough one comes up at the right time. Here in Australia you have restrictions on your license when you just get it. For the first 3 years you are on a "provisional" license and you can't drive a car with a V8, a turbo or a supercharger and some high powered six-cylinders are banned too. That Pulsar however has an SR20DE engine which is the NA variant of the engine in the Nissan Silvia S15/14/13 and is Provisional legal. I plan to do a head swap from an SR16VE to add variable valve timing as well as running through a standard set of performance mods with the goal of preparing it for a turbo when I get my full license. biggrin.gif
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What car are you thinking about? Also, you mean secondary driver right? We have 4 cars in my household and only 3 of us drives so I can't get secondary driver. tongue.gif It's a bit annoying but what can you do?



A Nissan Pulsar SSS N15 in Moody Blue haha. I may have to cave and go for a different colour if a clean enough one comes up at the right time. Here in Australia you have restrictions on your license when you just get it. For the first 3 years you are on a "provisional" license and you can't drive a car with a V8, a turbo or a supercharger and some high powered six-cylinders are banned too. That Pulsar however has an SR20DE engine which is the NA variant of the engine in the Nissan Silvia S15/14/13 and is Provisional legal. I plan to do a head swap from an SR16VE to add variable valve timing as well as running through a standard set of performance mods with the goal of preparing it for a turbo when I get my full license. biggrin.gif

That law sucks! I want a 1200hp Camaro ZL1. tongue.gif Rape the straight runs! The pull on those ZL1's are intense, I mean you can brake all you want and it'll just keep pulling you forward. tongue.gif
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Yeah, ebay is your friend for cheap fans...I scored mine for 9usd (Nidec 38mm thick 5300rpm beasts)
San aces are regarded to be real quiet when undervolted and still have massive pressure. But most of the h1011 users switched over to GT AP-15's these days.
The GT fans have an excellent blade design that minimizes the noise of air moving, and have really quiet motors. Yet some people complain about an audible motor whine when doing lower rpm's cause of the non-existent airflow noise (which is prevalent amongst most fans)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sanyo-Denki-San-Ace-109R1212H1131-120mm-3pin-TAC-Sensor-102cfm-DC-12V-fan-/170911969313?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item27cb25b021
2600rpm, undervolt it and run it at 5v, profit.
GT AP-15's are 17usd or so, when in stock. :/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Arctic-Cooling-ARCTIC-F12-PWM-CO-120mm-Case-Fan-w-PWM-/390444962717?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item5ae855539d
Those are VERY good, specially with lower speed (pwm and good bearing)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Arctic-Cooling-Arctic-F12-120mm-Case-Fan-1350-RPM-/290777513408?pt=UK_Computing_Case_Fans&hash=item43b3b0bdc0
These are CHEAP, but the bearing is not as good as the one over it. I'd reccomend the Helix fans from sidewindercomputers (free shipping, 7usd each)

Hmm... 38mm push pull would easily fit in my gigantic case, even with the 60mm rad, so I guess the san ace is an option, would need a fan controller however, and worried about ticking and other stuff that comes with undervolting.

I don't really want push pull in general, $20 x 16 fans is way toooooo much imo to spend. I also don't think i'll need it would so much rad space and only a 3700k & 690.

What about these http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6176/fan-346/Yate_Loon_120mm_x_25mm_UV_Reactive_LED_Fan_-_UV_Blue_D12SM-124UB.html?tl=g36c331s521

Basically its either
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2.gt typhoons
3.gelid cause they look really cool
4. the yates, which are really cheap so thats a plus, or something else worth mentioning.
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