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I don't get it. How does that happen? All of a sudden need that much more voltage? Kinda odd.
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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

Nice info ivanlabrie. I'll give it a try. Have you been able to determine if the problem was your delidding the chip or the MB? I may have missed the outcome/news on how that turned out.....
After my 3770K fatality (and fresh avatar choice), my new 3770K was able to hit 5.1GHz @ 1.48v thumb.gif - but it BSOD'ed very soon after that. Not even able to run superpi....
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2548916
IBT used to do 10 default passes easily & repeatedly at 4.6GHz @ ~1.22v, now it needs to be at ~1.32+v to even run, and it has the hi temps in 90s-100sC that go with that voltage. rolleyes.gif
Prime95 used to be stable for 18+hrs at 4.5GHz @ 1.232v, but I have yet to get prime to run stable so far with vcore up to 1.33v for 4.6GHz. I'll try higher vcore after work today. Oh joy....
Not a good chip. I also used CL Ultra on it already....frown.gif (I know - not a good idea, but I really wanted to try it instead of AS5, and I was opptimistic my chances of a simular or better chip were ~66%!)
But I can still use my computer for gaming and everything else I need to do, just not as much fun doing one of my favorite activities - OC'ing!!! biggrin.gif
Still, trying to see how far I can take this chip is a challenge....smile.gif

Keep at it! biggrin.gif
I rma'd my mobo, found some bent pins, tried fixing them but it was a no go (I may have broken one or two while at it frown.gif)
In one or two weeks I should have it back, and luckily my 3770k survided the pirate surgery.
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Originally Posted by kgtuning View Post

I don't get it. How does that happen? All of a sudden need that much more voltage? Kinda odd.

Simple, he was testing with IBT. You GOTTA use prime95 blend with 90% ram...
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Keep at it! biggrin.gif
I rma'd my mobo, found some bent pins, tried fixing them but it was a no go (I may have broken one or two while at it frown.gif)
In one or two weeks I should have it back, and luckily my 3770k survided the pirate surgery.
Simple, he was testing with IBT. You GOTTA use prime95 blend with 90% ram...

I must have missed something I was thinking before and after delidding and then had to jack up voltage.. I was making assumptions. Lol I always run prime.
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Originally Posted by kgtuning View Post

I don't get it. How does that happen? All of a sudden need that much more voltage? Kinda odd.

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Originally Posted by kgtuning View Post

I must have missed something I was thinking before and after delidding and then had to jack up voltage.. I was making assumptions. Lol I always run prime.

Yeah. Only makes sense knowing it is a new chip! My first 3770K did not survive delidding.... So I bought a new 3770K with hopes of getting something better, or at least simular....but no, I got a bottom feeder....smile.gif
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
120GB SanDisk Extreme SSD  1TB WD Black Caviar  2TB Seagate Barracuda TSSTcorp cd/dvd/bd 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Coursair H80 Win7 64 Acer 27" Wide LCD HD Logitech Black Illuminated 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Coursair AX850 Cooler Master HAF 922  Kensington Yep! w/wristpad! 
AudioAudio
Xonar DX 7.1 PCIe Logitech Z906 5.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500K 4.5GHZ 24/7 Ausu P8Z68-M Pro ATI 5770 Kingston Blue 1333 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Sandisk Extream 120GB SSD 750GB HDD CD/DVD Cooler Master 212 EVO 
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Yeah. Only makes sense knowing it is a new chip! My first 3770K did not survive delidding.... So I bought a new 3770K with hopes of getting something better, or at least simular....but no, I got a bottom feeder....smile.gif

I guess that's what I get for reading the thread on my phone while at work.... rolleyes.gif
post #1066 of 33576
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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

Nice info ivanlabrie. I'll give it a try. Have you been able to determine if the problem was your delidding the chip or the MB? I may have missed the outcome/news on how that turned out.....
After my 3770K fatality (and fresh avatar choice), my new 3770K was able to hit 5.1GHz @ 1.48v thumb.gif - but it BSOD'ed very soon after that. Not even able to run superpi....
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2548916
IBT used to do 10 default passes easily & repeatedly at 4.6GHz @ ~1.22v, now it needs to be at ~1.32+v to even run, and it has the hi temps in 90s-100sC that go with that voltage. rolleyes.gif
Prime95 used to be stable for 18+hrs at 4.5GHz @ 1.232v, but I have yet to get prime to run stable so far with vcore up to 1.33v for 4.6GHz. I'll try higher vcore after work today. Oh joy....
Not a good chip. I also used CL Ultra on it already....frown.gif (I know - not a good idea, but I really wanted to try it instead of AS5, and I was opptimistic my chances of a simular or better chip were ~66%!)
But I can still use my computer for gaming and everything else I need to do, just not as much fun doing one of my favorite activities - OC'ing!!! biggrin.gif
Still, trying to see how far I can take this chip is a challenge....smile.gif

bro, your chip is degrading fast ... at that rate it won't be able to run stock Turbo clocks in less than a month ... just saying, had one of those in past ...
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Originally Posted by feniks View Post

bro, your chip is degrading fast ... at that rate it won't be able to run stock Turbo clocks in less than a month ... just saying, had one of those in past ...

Not degrading - its a new chip! Replacement for the first one that died during delidding....

This new chip came out of the box this way! Only had it for less than a day......
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770K 4.5GHz Asus Sabertooth Z77 EVGA Gtx560ti 448 FTW (2x SLI) 16GB Crucial Ballistic Tactical 1866 9-9-9-24 1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
120GB SanDisk Extreme SSD  1TB WD Black Caviar  2TB Seagate Barracuda TSSTcorp cd/dvd/bd 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Coursair H80 Win7 64 Acer 27" Wide LCD HD Logitech Black Illuminated 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Coursair AX850 Cooler Master HAF 922  Kensington Yep! w/wristpad! 
AudioAudio
Xonar DX 7.1 PCIe Logitech Z906 5.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500K 4.5GHZ 24/7 Ausu P8Z68-M Pro ATI 5770 Kingston Blue 1333 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Sandisk Extream 120GB SSD 750GB HDD CD/DVD Cooler Master 212 EVO 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win7 64bit 22" Flat Screen (non-wide) Yes! Corsair GS600 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Cooler Master 912 Of course! nope intergrated & inexpensive speakers... 
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
120GB SanDisk Extreme SSD  1TB WD Black Caviar  2TB Seagate Barracuda TSSTcorp cd/dvd/bd 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Coursair H80 Win7 64 Acer 27" Wide LCD HD Logitech Black Illuminated 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Coursair AX850 Cooler Master HAF 922  Kensington Yep! w/wristpad! 
AudioAudio
Xonar DX 7.1 PCIe Logitech Z906 5.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500K 4.5GHZ 24/7 Ausu P8Z68-M Pro ATI 5770 Kingston Blue 1333 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Sandisk Extream 120GB SSD 750GB HDD CD/DVD Cooler Master 212 EVO 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
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Not degrading - its a new chip! Replacement for the first one that died during delidding....
This new chip came out of the box this way! Only had it for less than a day......

What are you gonna do with the old chip? remember if u do not want it ill takes it...
    
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Simple, he was testing with IBT. You GOTTA use prime95 blend with 90% ram...

man, no offense, but if there is a program that *causes* degradation of the chip at fast rate then all CPUs from Ivy Bridge should be considered faulty and recalled ... it ain't happening though, so it's not the case. why on earth would you think that cpu gets degraded by running a program??? some people use those CPUs for complex scientific calculations (linpack is a very complex calculation it performs on CPU), do you think Intel would release a line of CPUs being aware they can't be used for such purpose? sorry, but it's just silly to think so IMHO.

BTW, the latest Prime95 also uses AVX extensions (same as any current linpack stress tester with AVX) to stress test the CPU, but when using Prime95 it takes 10-20x times LONGER UNDER LOAD to actually prove stability/instability and I'd rather be inclined to say that it's the Prime95 stress testing causing more degradation (much longer under load) than IBT/LinX could ever do (much shorter runs) ...

some chips will degrade when overvolted even if temps are not a big issue (will degrade more if temps are at thermal limits) and some won't, and most of them will also degrade slowly over time, nothing wrong with it, that's how it is smile.gif
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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

Not degrading - its a new chip! Replacement for the first one that died during delidding....
This new chip came out of the box this way! Only had it for less than a day......

gotcha smile.gif
missed the part it was a replacement, sry biggrin.gif
thought your old chip survived somehow and got degraded that bad.
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