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Well my results thus far don't warrant the risk, time, and money, but as an educational experience it was very interesting. Only a 10c drop, and interestingly enough the differential from high to low went from only 6c before to 7c after, which is not good right?

Testing with 1.290v manual, H100i with two 1300rpm Noctua fans:
Cores 0 through 3, before, after, net=
78 65 = -13
82 70 = -12
82 72 = -10
76 65 = -11

Seems like a lot of people are getting 20c or better, so my 10c seems very inadequate. Based on that spread of temps, can anyone tell me if maybe I did something wrong? I painted the CL Ultra on the die, and on the top surface of the ihs, then installed as usual. Never used anything like Ultra before, but painting isn't exactly complicated so I can't think of what would have gone wrong.

Any help or suggestions much appreciated.
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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

Well my results thus far don't warrant the risk, time, and money, but as an educational experience it was very interesting. Only a 10c drop, and interestingly enough the differential from high to low went from only 6c before to 7c after, which is not good right?

Testing with 1.290v manual, H100i with two 1300rpm Noctua fans:
Cores 0 through 3, before, after, net=
78 65 = -13
82 70 = -12
82 72 = -10
76 65 = -11

Seems like a lot of people are getting 20c or better, so my 10c seems very inadequate. Based on that spread of temps, can anyone tell me if maybe I did something wrong? I painted the CL Ultra on the die, and on the top surface of the ihs, then installed as usual. Never used anything like Ultra before, but painting isn't exactly complicated so I can't think of what would have gone wrong.

Any help or suggestions much appreciated.

Sounds like you used too much Ultra. Try again with just a speck and paint it on so there are no mini pools. Also be sure to remove as much glue as possible, your IHS should spin freely on top of the die if done correctly.
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^people reported that sometimes the application didn't go to well - so it took them 3 tries to finally see the 20c drops they were expecting.
I don't think I'll personally see 20c first time round.

As for de-lidding - good on you for doing it RIGHT and having the courage!
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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

Well my results thus far don't warrant the risk, time, and money, but as an educational experience it was very interesting. Only a 10c drop, and interestingly enough the differential from high to low went from only 6c before to 7c after, which is not good right?

Testing with 1.290v manual, H100i with two 1300rpm Noctua fans:
Cores 0 through 3, before, after, net=
78 65 = -13
82 70 = -12
82 72 = -10
76 65 = -11

Seems like a lot of people are getting 20c or better, so my 10c seems very inadequate. Based on that spread of temps, can anyone tell me if maybe I did something wrong? I painted the CL Ultra on the die, and on the top surface of the ihs, then installed as usual. Never used anything like Ultra before, but painting isn't exactly complicated so I can't think of what would have gone wrong.

Any help or suggestions much appreciated.

to much TIM on the die rolleyes.gif it happens though don't feel bad.
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TD, and Stickg1, thanks as always.
Too much is possible I guess.
Being a newb, can you guys tell me if I can uninstall everything, and just smooth out the ultra in both places or is there no choice but to completely clean it off and reapply fresh? The one tube is not enough to do both applications again and at $18 a pop, I am just trying to figure out if I have to order a couple more.
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to much TIM on the die rolleyes.gif it happens though don't feel bad.
Thanks Valguar, and thank you very much for the great thread. My apologies for not +rep before.
Any other old delidders out there, as in born before 1970?

Any chance I can smooth out the application or should I clean all the ultra off and do it again from the start?
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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

TD, and Stickg1, thanks as always.
Too much is possible I guess.
Being a newb, can you guys tell me if I can uninstall everything, and just smooth out the ultra in both places or is there no choice but to completely clean it off and reapply fresh? The one tube is not enough to do both applications again and at $18 a pop, I am just trying to figure out if I have to order a couple more.

If there isn't enough Ultra to do both applications again, then you really are using a lot
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1.55 is not the max vcore.... neither is 1.52.

I'm getting very sick of this topic as well. The max vcore changes per chip due to the silicon used in the 22nm processing for Ivy Bridge. I've asked Intel many times and have been told the exact same thing which makes sense as each chip has certain properties due in part to just the silicon. That's why I'm trying to get a good group of people to actually make a good vcore to be in of good speeds and still seem safe.

Hokies.... I don't care that you have run 1.55 for months it's one chip. same for my Franky he took 1.98vcore and all the vcores in between for days of benching. I still prefer a range of 1.45vcore myself for full time loads of 24/7 like folding at home where the chip is stressed all day every day, plus playing games on it at the same time.

You can't say with certain knowledge yeah it's what I ran so it's fine yadda yadda yadda. You have to have proven results or a heck of a lot of experienced people behind your information. Yes sin knows his stuff and I agree. but 1.55 is still a lot of vcore.....

you have to be considerate to the normal users where they don't really know OC'ing as much as us and they think. Ohh 1.55 is totally fine! i'll throw that in and try for 5 giggles then they aren't delidded and they damage the thing.

That Intel chart with VID of 1.52 is at stock. it changes as soon as you OC the darn thing!

I would agree to 1.5 area IF and ONLY IF they are delidded, since the temps will be down by a large margin. but for the normal non crazy people like us, you need a safe area, so people aren't hitting thermals all day long trying to learn how to Overclock for the first time.

We need to decide on ONE and stick with it no more 8 different vcores all over the place.

I vote for 1.98 and not a millivolt more!
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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

Thanks Valguar, and thank you very much for the great thread. My apologies for not +rep before.
Any other old delidders out there, as in born before 1970?

Any chance I can smooth out the application or should I clean all the ultra off and do it again from the start?

Use the same brush to wipe the excess TIM onto the PCB and then carefully take a cotton swab dipped in alcohol and clean off the excess TIM. Works for me..
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I vote for 1.98 and not a millivolt more!

Max voltage is whatever your comfortable with. I say just keep the temps in check. If you're okay with cutting the IHS off your CPU and overclocking it over 4.5GHz then you're already risking the life of your chip so I say just go with it, if it dies, so be it.
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