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Gigabyte has the MB

cpu gpus water block are on table in my room.

I'm ready to see it all put together. When do you get your motherboard back? I have a P8Z77-V PRO just sitting here fresh from RMA.
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I'm ready to see it all put together. When do you get your motherboard back? I have a P8Z77-V PRO just sitting here fresh from RMA.

There being quite slow even tho there order for my MB came from the Top of Gigabyte America...

Also as u can see in this picture with both on the same inverter one is alot more dim then the other...

So i ordered another inverter.. hope it clears that up.



See how much brighter the 400ML is when it is on the inverter alone?

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the thread starter is not even delided ??? lol what r u waiting for biggrin.gif

waiting to do a live stream with Swag or someone.
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My 3570K @ 4.8GHz is rocking at some F@H...


Nice, waiting to get back into the good WU's for once.
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looks good! get another inverter man. way to dim.

here's my 2620Mhz RAM at 7 12 8 27..... yeah crazy speed but I cant get them to boot at 2600 stock... UUUGH! mad.gifmad.gifmad.gifmad.gifmad.gifmad.gif

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2678162
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I'll be doing it probably next weekend- when I have all the parts.
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I spent all day on this IHS, and it desperately need lapping. It took quite a while to finally start scratching the center, that is how low it was. Then I lapped the bottom for good measure, and I spent a good amount of time trying to get the underside flat also.

I was able to scrape together a drop of Ultra so I carefully covered the die as instructed. I am using AC5 on the top of the IHS, but even with a better tim, only a couple degrees can be gained from what I understand.

Right now I have done everything humanly possible I can think of, and I have gained at least 5c from when I first delidded - as in 5c worse. Overall am I very close to the temps before all this began.

Delid the chip, use Ultra on the die, and lap a measurably concave IHS = an almost unnoticeable decrease in temps. At this point I believe the relatively thick paste that Intel used plus the black glue holding the IHS up were able to compensate for a non flat IHS. Now that there is air between the edges of the IHS and pcb, so the IHS rests directly on the die, even the slightest imperfection in the IHS is magnified. But that is just my guess.

Is there anybody who might have another suggestion I can try?
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The results are looking very good for the direct die mount. I got a 7 to 8 degree decrease in my hottest core temperature. This is in addition to the 10 degree decrease that I already gained from delidding. In addition to lower temperatures, I was also able to reduce my VCore by 0.020V and still run at the same speed. For my test configuration, I set my VCore to the lowest value required to pass 10 passes of Intel Burn test at the standard setting.

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I spent all day on this IHS, and it desperately need lapping. It took quite a while to finally start scratching the center, that is how low it was. Then I lapped the bottom for good measure, and I spent a good amount of time trying to get the underside flat also.

I was able to scrape together a drop of Ultra so I carefully covered the die as instructed. I am using AC5 on the top of the IHS, but even with a better tim, only a couple degrees can be gained from what I understand.

Right now I have done everything humanly possible I can think of, and I have gained at least 5c from when I first delidded - as in 5c worse. Overall am I very close to the temps before all this began.

Delid the chip, use Ultra on the die, and lap a measurably concave IHS = an almost unnoticeable decrease in temps. At this point I believe the relatively thick paste that Intel used plus the black glue holding the IHS up were able to compensate for a non flat IHS. Now that there is air between the edges of the IHS and pcb, so the IHS rests directly on the die, even the slightest imperfection in the IHS is magnified. But that is just my guess.

Is there anybody who might have another suggestion I can try?

That's sad to hear justanoldman. Maybe further lapping to get the IHS more flat, or a pasty TIM that can fill in the spaces like ICDiamond, or back to too much CLPro or Ultra if that gets you better temps? As you may guess this is not the typical results. I guess this makes you special? Consider the ideas above and let see if others have some ideas too.

Have you considered going direct to the die? Some on here have done so and it does work.
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@justanoldman Some things to check:
  • Check the flatness of your waterblock or CPU cooler. Many manufacturers are making them convex these days to fit the concave Intel IHS.
  • Be sure to apply liquid pro/ultra to both the die and underside of the IHS.
  • Do not apply too much liquid pro/ultra. If it starts to run when the chip is held vertically, it is too much.

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Thanks guys. I applied the Ultra right, so that is not the issue. I have not spent any real time checking the block of my h100i though.

I saw the thread about direct to die with an h100, anyone know if there is a thread anywhere out there for an h100i direct?

Also is there any quick way to do one simple test to see if direct to die would work, or do you have to do extensive modification before you and even test anything?

Are the negative side affects to getting rid of the ihs? Less chip life, more system instability, etc.?
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Each pic was taken after quite a bit of lapping, and shows how long it took to finally reach to the center.






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