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Already lapped the bottom of the IHS, and tried my best to flatten out the underside where the die touches.

Only thing left is lap the h100i but I can't find any info on it. Can I remove the cold plate?

A thought I just had, are the h100i pump & fans running full out or on some kind of PWM control? If the variable speed parts are running based off cpu temps it could be things are just ramping up slower so you aren't seeing the temp drops, just running quieter.
    
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A thought I just had, are the h100i pump & fans running full out or on some kind of PWM control? If the variable speed parts are running based off cpu temps it could be things are just ramping up slower so you aren't seeing the temp drops, just running quieter.
I switched out my stock h100i fans for two quiet Noctua ones that are plugged into the mobo so they run full speed.

Since lapping the cooler would obviously void the warranty, and my led lights are not all working, plus the firmware mixup that Corsair did, I just put in for a replacement one. Maybe my h100i was not working as it should since it had other problems. Amazon said I would have the replacement in a few days.

I also ordered some more Ultra, so I will try this again next week. It still seems like my IHS is the source of the problem though. I wish I knew an easy way to bypass it, but that mod seems complicated.
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So one month ago, I had never built a computer or overclocked anything, and I have never had a computer related job. So I figure what the heck. Build it, overclock the cpu and gpu, do a delidding and lapping. Anything I missed?
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So one month ago, I had never built a computer or overclocked anything, and I have never had a computer related job. So I figure what the heck. Build it, overclock the cpu and gpu, do a delidding and lapping. Anything I missed?

LN2, drop 10k on it, LN2, DICE, and case modding.
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I switched out my stock h100i fans for two quiet Noctua ones that are plugged into the mobo so they run full speed.

Since lapping the cooler would obviously void the warranty, and my led lights are not all working, plus the firmware mixup that Corsair did, I just put in for a replacement one. Maybe my h100i was not working as it should since it had other problems. Amazon said I would have the replacement in a few days.

I also ordered some more Ultra, so I will try this again next week. It still seems like my IHS is the source of the problem though. I wish I knew an easy way to bypass it, but that mod seems complicated.
Well you need to make sure your pump for the H100i is running at full RPM. I usually just plug it into the PWR fan header because those don't have speed adjustments, just full speed all the time. If you have it on the CPU header than you need to go into BIOS or use your AI Suite to set it to run 100% all the time.
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So one month ago, I had never built a computer or overclocked anything, and I have never had a computer related job. So I figure what the heck. Build it, overclock the cpu and gpu, do a delidding and lapping. Anything I missed?
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LN2, drop 10k on it, LN2, DICE, and case modding.

lol, yeah it can get out of hand. I've gone through 7 boards, 9 CPUs, and 10 GPU's all since this time in 2012...
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So one month ago, I had never built a computer or overclocked anything, and I have never had a computer related job. So I figure what the heck. Build it, overclock the cpu and gpu, do a delidding and lapping. Anything I missed?
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LN2, drop 10k on it, LN2, DICE, and case modding.

...well, let's not forget liquid Helium, shall we ? biggrin.gif

But seriously, FtW 420's comment above is important; I ran into s.th. like that with my Thermaltake Water 2 Extreme...don't use the 'normal' mobo cpu fan curve (or even custom fan curve), but let your water-cooling software override that.

In addition, I saw all those earlier lapping comments...one thing to keep in mind is that the concave shape is met by some convex shapes of certain coolers /water blocks...if that is the case, rotating the water block or CPU cooler by 90 degrees and reapplying the correct amount of TIM might help.

As an example, I was planning to lap my IHS when my delidding stuff arrives, but I already have a Koolance CPU 370 water block waiting - it actually is slightly curved at the bottom, fitting into the shape of the curved IHS - as long as I mount it correctly....this may have nothing to do with your problems, but worth checking. Good luck ! thumb.gif
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...well, let's not forget liquid Helium, shall we ? biggrin.gif

But seriously, FtW 420's comment above is important; I ran into s.th. like that with my Thermaltake Water 2 Extreme...don't use the 'normal' mobo cpu fan curve (or even custom fan curve), but let your water-cooling software override that.

In addition, I saw all those earlier lapping comments...one thing to keep in mind is that the concave shape is met by some convex shapes of certain coolers /water blocks...if that is the case, rotating the water block or CPU cooler by 90 degrees and reapplying the correct amount of TIM might help.

As an example, I was planning to lap my IHS when my delidding stuff arrives, but I already have a Koolance CPU 370 water block waiting - it actually is slightly curved at the bottom, fitting into the shape of the curved IHS - as long as I mount it correctly....this may have nothing to do with your problems, but worth checking. Good luck ! thumb.gif

I ran into that before, switching from a mobo with 100% default cpu fan speed to a board that was auto at default with an aircooler. Didn't really get why it was running hotter at the same clocks & voltage until I noticed the fan getting louder.

Liquid helium would be fun. I asked about the pricing once & 10x the cost of ln2, would make for some expensive fun.
Bit of ln2 action last night, testing a couple 3770ks for one that did decent in 3d11 physics & gave cinebench a run as well with the better one (cpu kinda sucked on air, but does alright cold).

61ghz11_zps99abf5c8.jpg
61ghzcine_zpse18f0a4c.jpg

Just need to get the gpu tested tonight & freeze it all together for the score.
    
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Ok I have some pictures that show part of my problem I think, hopefully these will give you guys an idea of how I might fix it.

These pictures are before the delid. The H100i had been installed with its included tim that is pre applied on the block. These are pics of the first time it was removed. Keep in mind there is some right to left play when you uninstall it, so some of the tim movement in these pictures happens from the uninstall process.

As you can see the paste seems pretty even on the block and on the IHS.




These pics are post delid and using AS5 with the finger in plastic spreading out a thin layer technique. It seems to me that post delid the cooler block is leaning to the right, or my IHS is higher on the right than left. What do you guys think? I must be doing something wrong, maybe this has something to do with it?


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I ran into that before, switching from a mobo with 100% default cpu fan speed to a board that was auto at default with an aircooler. Didn't really get why it was running hotter at the same clocks & voltage until I noticed the fan getting louder.

Liquid helium would be fun. I asked about the pricing once & 10x the cost of ln2, would make for some expensive fun.
Bit of ln2 action last night, testing a couple 3770ks for one that did decent in 3d11 physics & gave cinebench a run as well with the better one (cpu kinda sucked on air, but does alright cold).

61ghz11_zps99abf5c8.jpg
61ghzcine_zpse18f0a4c.jpg

Just need to get the gpu tested tonight & freeze it all together for the score.

...well, very impressive thumb.gif

...but still not beating my arrowheadsmiley.png 2,147,483,647 MHz lachen.gifheadscratch.gif run from 3 weeks+ ago (see processor speed at 3dMark11 here http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5552345 )

...repeated it yesterday - which way to HWBot ?! biggrin.gifkookoo.gif

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Ok I have some pictures that show part of my problem I think, hopefully these will give you guys an idea of how I might fix it.

These pictures are before the delid. The H100i had been installed with its included tim that is pre applied on the block. These are pics of the first time it was removed. Keep in mind there is some right to left play when you uninstall it, so some of the tim movement in these pictures happens from the uninstall process.

As you can see the paste seems pretty even on the block and on the IHS. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




These pics are post delid and using AS5 with the finger in plastic spreading out a thin layer technique. It seems to me that post delid the cooler block is leaning to the right, or my IHS is higher on the right than left. What do you guys think? I must be doing something wrong, maybe this has something to do with it?


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Just put a small dot of TIM on the IHS. You really just need the TIM where the die is and the pressure of the coldplate will spread it into a nice little circle, you get the best results this way. Doing the spread method is very easy to apply too much TIM.
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