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Just put a small dot of TIM on the IHS. You really just need the TIM where the die is and the pressure of the coldplate will spread it into a nice little circle, you get the best results this way. Doing the spread method is very easy to apply too much TIM.
Ok thanks.
But don't those pic show that for some reason, after delidding, my IHS or cooler block is not level. They seem pushed together on the right and not contacting properly in the middle and left.
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...well, very impressive thumb.gif

...but still not beating my arrowheadsmiley.png 2,147,483,647 MHz lachen.gifheadscratch.gif run from 3 weeks+ ago (see processor speed at 3dMark11 here http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5552345 )

...repeated it yesterday - which way to HWBot ?! biggrin.gifkookoo.gif


I may not be able to beat that clockspeed, but I can match it!
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4536198

Futuremark is trying to tell us we're too slow or something...
    
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Ok thanks.
But don't those pic show that for some reason, after delidding, my IHS or cooler block is not level. They seem pushed together on the right and not contacting properly in the middle and left.

Do the tiny dot method and then take a pic. Too much can go wrong with the spread method, it's hard to tell.


So I asked my HVAC guy about setting up a phase change system. I was explaining why you need to cool computer components because a PC enthusiast he is not. So not knowing anything about extreme cooling for PCs this is what he said...

"Couldn't you just somehow make a block that is connected with hoses to a radiator and a pump and just fill it with water, if you get enough air to go through the radiator it should cool the parts really well"

So I told him that's pretty much what is being done already, and is very common. I just want to do with a condenser. But then he had the idea of replacing the water with Glycol because it has much smaller molecules than water so might cool more effectively. Anyone ever use Glycol?
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I may not be able to beat that clockspeed, but I can match it!
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4536198

Futuremark is trying to tell us we're too slow or something...

...and here I thought it was cold and lonely at the top biggrin.gif
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Do the tiny dot method and then take a pic. Too much can go wrong with the spread method, it's hard to tell.


So I asked my HVAC guy about setting up a phase change system. I was explaining why you need to cool computer components because a PC enthusiast he is not. So not knowing anything about extreme cooling for PCs this is what he said...

"Couldn't you just somehow make a block that is connected with hoses to a radiator and a pump and just fill it with water, if you get enough air to go through the radiator it should cool the parts really well"

So I told him that's pretty much what is being done already, and is very common. I just want to do with a condenser. But then he had the idea of replacing the water with Glycol because it has much smaller molecules than water so might cool more effectively. Anyone ever use Glycol?

A lot of the pre-mix coolants have glycol in them, I've used propylene glycol in a water chiller but never had a rad with it, so have never compared.
    
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Ok I have some pictures that show part of my problem I think, hopefully these will give you guys an idea of how I might fix it.

These pictures are before the delid. The H100i had been installed with its included tim that is pre applied on the block. These are pics of the first time it was removed. Keep in mind there is some right to left play when you uninstall it, so some of the tim movement in these pictures happens from the uninstall process.

As you can see the paste seems pretty even on the block and on the IHS. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


These pics are post delid and using AS5 with the finger in plastic spreading out a thin layer technique. It seems to me that post delid the cooler block is leaning to the right, or my IHS is higher on the right than left. What do you guys think? I must be doing something wrong, maybe this has something to do with it?



justanoldman, do you see the black rectangular thing at the bottom of the PCB that the IHS is on top of? That is rasied up higher than the rest of the PCB, and if your IHS rides up onto it when you clamp it down (like it shows to be in these pics), then that will lift you IHS off of your die enough to mess up your temps.

Try to remount your IHS - hold it steady as you clamp it down - so that it is not on top of the black area at the bottom of the pic.

That's probably your problem.....I hope! smile.gif
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INDIE GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tongue.gif

A note to people willing to, you can sand the lips of the IHS on the bottom side a bit to lower the IHS a bit more onto the die.
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justanoldman, do you see the black rectangular thing at the bottom of the PCB that the IHS is on top of? That is rasied up higher than the rest of the PCB, and if your IHS rides up onto it when you clamp it down (like it shows to be in these pics), then that will lift you IHS off of your die enough to mess up your temps.

Try to remount your IHS - hold it steady as you clamp it down - so that it is not on top of the black area at the bottom of the pic.

That's probably your problem.....I hope! smile.gif
Sorry, I'm confused. The picture you have showing in your post is pre delid. If that is pic you mean then Intel made it wrong?
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I ran into that before, switching from a mobo with 100% default cpu fan speed to a board that was auto at default with an aircooler. Didn't really get why it was running hotter at the same clocks & voltage until I noticed the fan getting louder.

Liquid helium would be fun. I asked about the pricing once & 10x the cost of ln2, would make for some expensive fun.
Bit of ln2 action last night, testing a couple 3770ks for one that did decent in 3d11 physics & gave cinebench a run as well with the better one (cpu kinda sucked on air, but does alright cold).
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Just need to get the gpu tested tonight & freeze it all together for the score.

Nice runs FtW 420. I look forward to seeing some other bench run scores once you get the GPU ready. 3DMark11 and Vantage would be cool. Thanks for showing them.
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