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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

what exactly would i be soldering?

@Stu-Crossfire : very nice mate

You would just be putting a drop of solder on those bare copper parts that got scratched and hope that it mends whatever is causing your issues. The whole idea is hopeful at best as I have no proof of it ever working or being attempted.

So it'd basically be pulling a Chicharito and trying to go for big goals, hoping you get your starting spot next game.
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Thanks. Never bothered to validate it so just did so... http://valid.canardpc.com/2679687

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Originally Posted by Stu-Crossfire View Post

Mines been a great sucess... info below pasted from my seperate topic, for your guys information.

Hi Guys,
Took the plunge and de-lidded my 3770K as even with my huge loop, 90c at 1.28v and 4.7ghz was stopping me testing any further and I really want some more clocks. Also, my core temps were very uneven which has always niggled me.

Plus - I just wanted to do it for the hell of it, so off we go... smile.gif

Quick test beforehand using ten runs of IBT on normal yield the following results.

  • Idle Core 1 = 31c
  • Idle Core 2 = 26c
  • Idle Core 3 = 29c
  • Idle Core 4 = 23c

  • Max Core 1 = 76c
  • Max Core 2 = 88c
  • Max Core 3 = 83c
  • Max Core 4 = 79c





After the work was completed, I performed the same test, and yielded the following results.
  • Idle Core 1 = 27c (-4c)
  • Idle Core 2 = 24c (-2c)
  • Idle Core 3 = 26c (-3c)
  • Idle Core 4 = 22c (-1c)

  • Max Core 1 = 53c (-23c)
  • Max Core 2 = 56c (-32c)
  • Max Core 3 = 58c (-25c)
  • Max Core 4 = 54c (-25c)

An incredible max improvement of 32 Degrees C!
And importantly, the cores are now all within 5c of each other, instead of 12c as they were previous, which I expect is a result of the lapping.




Just to be sure it wasnt a fluke, I put ona quick double run on Max settings. results are almost identical. smile.gif




Pleased?
Oh yes! Now for some more volts and clocks! biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

Pictures to follow. just uploading.

The bits n bobs... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


She's under the knife...


No turning back now...




IHS was definately concave... that pleased me. smile.gif






Pop her back in with some Liquid pro...


And that is pretty much that. All I can say is TAKE YOUR TIME.
Rush this and you will slip and wreck her... but take your time and its very simple to do. smile.gif

Nice job! give me your info and I'll let you in!
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21 - 6! frown.gif NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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21 - 6! frown.gif NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Wooooooooooo go Baltimore!
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Im not even watching the game as it compares nothing to the "walking dead" marathon on right now
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Oh my god! 109 yards!
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Thanks for all the info.
I would guess around 62c also, but right now I am using AC5 between the ihs and cooler. I will use Ultra there when I get some more, that could be a couple more degrees I hope. I don't understand why lapping a really concave IHS did not help, but that might be part of the problem I am having. I can't find anyone, anywhere that has lapped an H100i, so I don't know if that is what I need to do to get it to fit better with the IHS.

Going from AS5 to CLU/CLP will be a dramatic temp drop, just on the ihs even. As in as big a temp drop as going from a hyper 212 to an h80, maybe even high end cooling like an nh-d14. AS5 is just so terrible, it's been terrible for a long time (dont you have some stock paste you can use instead, like what came with some good heatsink you bought or something?). 13 years ago it was good, but 13 years ago the pentium 3 or whatever was great too.

On top of that, going to not just a high end ceramique, but a premium thermal solution like CLU/CLP, you'll literally get temp drops of 10-20*C when used just on the IHS instead of as5. Why would you buy a 13 year old thermal paste, I can assure you many other companies, and even arctic silver, have been able to figure out a better paste. The idea that pastes don't make a difference is partially wrong - yes, the difference between modern, high end pastes is very little, but as5 is not modern, and it wasn't even high end 10 years ago. Then, CLU/CLP is more in line with phobya hegrease, ic diamond, indigo extreme, than pk-3, mx-4, nh-t1 - it's an extreme paste.

You don't have to hope. It's guaranteed your temps will be dramatically different if you use a decent paste on the IHS over as5. It's not just a couple degrees lost using as5... it's huge. I literally saw bigger temp drops using PK-3 over PK-1 than from going from a hyper 212 to H50 - and pk-1 is significantly better than as5, and pk-3, while one of the better modern pastes, is not in the same league as CLU/CLP. Then again you can buy a 1.5g of pk-3 for under $4, while 1.5g of CLU/CLP is about $15-23 shipped.

I'm considering lapping my chip. With taking my nh-d14 on and off so many times, I must have scratched the IHS at one point. Kinda nasty scratch, I wouldn't normally mind but it's right in the middle. I'm pretty delicate with these heatsinks, i've mounted heatsinks at least 50+ times by now, especially the nh-d14... must be the mounting system. I don't exactly want to go about lapping the nh-d14 though.
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Very nice, you're looking at an additional 7.75c drop on average.
Pretty cool for water coolers...I wouldn't try it with Swiftech blocks, or AIO's cause they have mounting mechanisms that stop automatically once you reach the optimum contact pressure (which is at IHS level)...hence bad or no contact withuot ihs.
Cool! Any 580 to freeze? Or 7970's? You said 11...
That guy has some smarts lol, but the glycol part doesn't work like that. It's better for water chillers or aio's but distilled performs better for regular water.
Slap him and make him mod an AC unit into a phase one, all he's gotta do is replace the evaporator with a cold plate and calibrate the unit properly. He knows how already...
Oh, and you gotta figure out a way to go below the temp control limit, which will be warmer than 0c lol
+1, Hold the ihs in place with your finger whilst clamping the latch down, and avoid touching those gold pins when placing the ihs higher up on the pcb.
Awesome man! Hope your imc is intact...Good luck!

I do have some 580s, will have to run one for 3dmark01 but tonight going for 3d11 & whatever other 3d I have time for. See what the card can do cold before the new 3dmark drops tomorrow.
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what exactly would i be soldering?

@Stu-Crossfire : very nice mate

Don't solder it, you want to insulate the exposed spots, not increase the surface area of spots that can potentially short out.
    
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I do have some 580s, will have to run one for 3dmark01 but tonight going for 3d11 & whatever other 3d I have time for. See what the card can do cold before the new 3dmark drops tomorrow.
Don't solder it, you want to insulate the exposed spots, not increase the surface area of spots that can potentially short out.

3d mark 13?
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Going from AS5 to CLU/CLP will be a dramatic temp drop, just on the ihs even. As in as big a temp drop as going from a hyper 212 to an h80, maybe even high end cooling like an nh-d14. AS5 is just so terrible, it's been terrible for a long time (dont you have some stock paste you can use instead, like what came with some good heatsink you bought or something?). 13 years ago it was good, but 13 years ago the pentium 3 or whatever was great too.

On top of that, going to not just a high end ceramique, but a premium thermal solution like CLU/CLP, you'll literally get temp drops of 10-20*C when used just on the IHS instead of as5. Why would you buy a 13 year old thermal paste, I can assure you many other companies, and even arctic silver, have been able to figure out a better paste. The idea that pastes don't make a difference is partially wrong - yes, the difference between modern, high end pastes is very little, but as5 is not modern, and it wasn't even high end 10 years ago. Then, CLU/CLP is more in line with phobya hegrease, ic diamond, indigo extreme, than pk-3, mx-4, nh-t1 - it's an extreme paste.

You don't have to hope. It's guaranteed your temps will be dramatically different if you use a decent paste on the IHS over as5. It's not just a couple degrees lost using as5... it's huge. I literally saw bigger temp drops using PK-3 over PK-1 than from going from a hyper 212 to H50 - and pk-1 is significantly better than as5, and pk-3, while one of the better modern pastes, is not in the same league as CLU/CLP. Then again you can buy a 1.5g of pk-3 for under $4, while 1.5g of CLU/CLP is about $15-23 shipped.

I'm considering lapping my chip. With taking my nh-d14 on and off so many times, I must have scratched the IHS at one point. Kinda nasty scratch, I wouldn't normally mind but it's right in the middle. I'm pretty delicate with these heatsinks, i've mounted heatsinks at least 50+ times by now, especially the nh-d14... must be the mounting system. I don't exactly want to go about lapping the nh-d14 though.

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