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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

Who here has scratched the PCB, and got everything running fine?

I have seen posts where cpu pcb's have been scratched and worked just fine, I believe it depends where you scratch it and how badly, you can get lucky and not damage it. I had no scratches though.
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Originally Posted by chronicfx View Post

I have seen posts where cpu pcb's have been scratched and worked just fine, I believe it depends where you scratch it and how badly, you can get lucky and not damage it. I had no scratches though.

Hm ok - Im just curious if people had grounding issues.
I just want to run 8GB dual channel, rather than single channel.
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That's not really fair to compare CLP to AS5. I'd question how awesome CLP really is if you compare it to a modern, relevant paste. Comparing to AS5 is like saying "ivy bridge is the best chip I bought, you should definitely buy it over your sandy bridge, check out these before and after benchmarks I have of my ivy bridge against a pentium 2"

I wonder if something better than CLU/Indigo and PK3/masscool is out. The nature of TIMs, you dont hear about them until they become irrelevant (as5, clp). I think I'm gonna have to get some CLU - not because I want to, but because if I don't ask for something, my aunt will buy me another hideous sweater. I'll be sure to do a small fft test if/when i get it to really see how great it is (honestly I do expect a significant difference and yea i actually do think its a good value, a drop of 10*C over a high end modern paste like pk-3 maybe, i mean you'd pay premium $60+ for that kind of drop on just a heatsink upgrade).

i think in this case it does, if i remember well, megawatz used AS5 also,
nothing wrong with my comparison that way smile.gif


i think its more "wrong' to do a comparison like yours ...lol


"ivy bridge is the best chip I bought, you should definitely buy it over your sandy bridge,
check out these before and after benchmarks I have of my ivy bridge against a pentium 2"


ivy against a pentium 2 ...haha

didnt realize he used as5.
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So I was so close to delidding this weekend but, I read what happened to TD so I decided to maybe wait a bit redface.gif Still nervous about something bad happening to my chip and not working right after delidding. I have all the stuff ready...I had even cleaned my table and had turned off my pc but I had forgotten to run the IBT at 4.5Ghz so I did that and that's when I read TD was finally delidding and decided to see how it went for him. So anyways...yesterday I decided to apply some Ultra to my cpu and heatsink and the application process was pretty simple with the brush.
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So I was so close to delidding this weekend but, I read what happened to TD so I decided to maybe wait a bit redface.gif Still nervous about something bad happening to my chip and not working right after delidding. I have all the stuff ready...I had even cleaned my table and had turned off my pc but I had forgotten to run the IBT at 4.5Ghz so I did that and that's when I read TD was finally delidding and decided to see how it went for him. So anyways...yesterday I decided to apply some Ultra to my cpu and heatsink and the application process was pretty simple with the brush.

yea, sometimes a delid can go wrong..true that..
but theres more delids go right, then go wrong..thats another fact. smile.gif
we learn from mistakes, thats one reason we gathered all the info
in this thread, to help people who want to delid,
and guide them through the process if needed..
do you have a old pentium to practice on first maybe?
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yea, sometimes a delid can go wrong..true that..
but theres more delids go right, then go wrong..thats another fact. smile.gif
we learn from mistakes, thats one reason we gathered all the info
in this thread, to help people who want to delid,
and guide them through the process if needed..
do you have a old pentium to practice on first maybe?

True true VonDutch....I'll see if I decide to delid later on in a week or two...there have been very impressive results and that encourages me to go for it! Unfortunately I had always been AMD so no previous intel chips on hand to practice on lol
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True true VonDutch....I'll see if I decide to go for it later on in a week or two...there have been very impressive results and that encourages me to go for it! Unfortunately I had always been AMD so no previous intel chips on hand to practice on lol

lol..i came from amd too, this is my first intel chip ever biggrin.gif
and i love it hehe...
but, hey i was just looking in my closet, i still have 3 old pentiums laying around from my delid project with my kids,
i dont think im gonna use them anymore..
i could send you one if you like, not sure what it will cost to send it all the way over there tho ..lol
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lol..i came from amd too, this is my first intel chip ever biggrin.gif
and i love it hehe...
but, hey i was just looking in my closet, i still have 3 old pentiums laying around from my delid project with my kids,
i dont think im gonna use them anymore..
i could send you one if you like, not sure what it will cost to send it all the way over there tho ..lol

Thanks I appreciate it VonDutch! lol Yeah it's very far away.... it's ok I'm sure I'll do ok like many other 1st time delidders here! thumb.gif
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didnt realize he used as5.

I did, and it's not as bad as it seems. Coming down to it and having AS5 on both the IHS and on the die, I saw about a 5-6c temp drop. I was so skeptical about it at first, but like I stated earlier, I RARELY hit 65c on air with a 100% load. Only time I go above that is IBT, which reaches 82c, but not for long.
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Did it! biggrin.gif

(Second razor helped for the final part getting apart the IHS)
Voltage is 1.275 in BIOS (Asrock Z77E-UTX), no offset, but CPU-Z shows 1.296V.
So I guess I am far from a golden chip.

Before:


Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Die contact: good enough, no need for lapping the inner side of the IHS:


Lapping (wet): from 600, 800, 1200, 2000, to 3000 sand paper grain size:


Mirror effect is here, little blurred area on the low right (see my avatar) but it will do! wink.gif

IHS/NH-C14 contact after lapping:

Not as perfect as would have liked, was expecting a nice red square but I will live with it. Don't want to lap the base of the Nh-C14...

I then used the little brush that comes with CLU for both applying CLP and CLU.
It leaves some traces as you can see, so I guess it works but is not the perfect tool.

CLP on the die (and inner IHS):


CLU ont he IHS (and NH-C14):

After delidding and lapping:


Before and after ambient T° were almost identical, maybe a little warmer for the 2nd test (~19°C).
Min temps are colder on the 2nd test because I run the it at the first boot, while last time I did several tests/reboots before making the screenshot.
Core #2 is still the hottest, but max temp droped down from 98°C to 60°C: minus 38°C!!! IMPRESSIVE!!! lmaosmiley.gif
Core #1 is still the coolest, max temp droped down from 86°C to 52°C. So the max diff between core #1 and #2 is reduced from 12°C to 8°C. Was expecting a better result here, like a 3-4°C diff. I am using the iGPU, dunno... What do you guys think?

I did all the job on a wood table without being grounded, touching a metallic heater from time to time though.
Those antistatic bracelets looks so short I didn't want to be bothered wearing one (plus I had to wait 1 week to get one)
For those using one, where do you attached it?

Unlike many other hunting for speed, I am happy with 4.5GHz and did delid to reduce temps and be able to run the cooler at 9v or even 7V for extra silence.
Will see if I still have room for some extra GHz and staying silent though wink.gif


Your in! thumb.gif Now slap that Awesome Sig of ours on!


Ugh.. im still sick lol... all i wanna do is sleep and puke... sicksmiley.png
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