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...thanks and again, my appreciation for a great thread you started - without the info here, I would have probably screwed it up... front info and sig can wait until I finish the cooling fix and case modding (bought a 114mm hole saw just to cut into a new CM Storm Stryker case biggrin.gif as I am reversing the air flow - back to front)

No problem. Very glad you and everyone here enjoys this place biggrin.gif. Cant wait to see that new air flow, I've seen it done and am interested in it somewhat for a future summer build for parents. (building them one redoing mine a bit and benching gear everywhere, all the 775 and gpu's all over the place) Just like you FtW lol rolleyes.gif

I'll be waiting for your submissions thumb.gif and more 3dmark stuff as well, jelly of your Sli man.... not fair mad.gif
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This is what I average as far as high temps go, my chip is more voltage locked as in needs aloooot 4.7 is 4.94-5.05v for prime stable temps at 78
I run 24-7 at 4.6 1.414-1.424v temps stay in the 60 highest temp yet.

Should i delid? Will it help me oc more? I was thinking it wouldn't.I really wanted 5ghz but it is not possible.


Edited by solar0987 - 2/13/13 at 12:15am
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This is what I average as far as high temps go, my chip is more voltage locked as in needs aloooot 4.7 is 4.94-5.05v for prime stable temps at 78
I run 24-7 at 4.6 1.414-1.424v temps stay in the 60 highest temp yet.

Should i delid? Will it help me oc more? I was thinking it wouldn't.I really wanted 5ghz but it is not possible. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


looks to me you cant oc much more then you have now,
if you need 1.414-1.424V vcore for 4.6ghz..
in your case the temps are still ok, but your vcore limits you to oc much further,
youre sure you cant get the vcore down more at 4.6ghz?
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...just delidded myself a few days back...keep in mind that you changed the 'full package depth' re CPU cooler pressure on the CPU and in turn on the pins...some folks have had issues with that, ie regarding IMC and other memory stick items...carefully readjusting the CPU cooler pressure might help
Looks like its ok now, thx for advice,if its happen again, i will see presaure.
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Hey Dutch did I see on anandtech the other day a guy tell you that u have "phantom instability"? Any idea what the proper amount of gigaflops we should be getting is at. 4.9 or 5ghz with a 3570k and 1600mhz ram? Assuming I am not getting invisible calc corrections? Was that guy accurate or full of it?

yea, i never heard of the term "phantom instability" before, so i had to ask whats up with that ..lol
i bet not to many others here did too biggrin.gif

i showed them martinhal's graph, where you can see the gflops should go up liniair,


or like IDC showed with his graph

"You should get a dead-linear curve between clockspeed and Gflops.
Running problem size 43122 with DDR3-1866 ram, Sandy Bridge will give you 28.28 GFlops/GHz and Ivy Bridge will give you 28.42 GFlops/GHz."

another member over there tried, and got this,

"Going by IDC's 28.42 * GHz (4.5) = 127.89... seems about right, I don't think I've ever hit ~128 at 4.5GHz though, 127 yeah, so it's close enough."


if i look at martinhal's graph, the gflops should go up by about 2 per 100mhz,
i think thats about right, im not sure the liniair math will stay the same at very high oc's tho,
if it was correct, a 3770K at 5.0ghz should have about 140 gflops, thats why i asked you guys
about the gflops you have at that speed, because were delidded, its easier to run it ..lol

i see some differences in gflops we have, but most of the time its settings, and ram used that makes the difference,
theres no real standard for gflops, except if its very low, or anything else thats off compared to others,
and most of the time very low gflops has to do with , not having SP1 installed, for the avx instructions etc..

if there is/was a phantom instability then your gflops would get lower with every 100mhz you up your oc,
it could mean theres that phantom instability as far as i understand it now..
that guy claimed he had about 120 gflops at 4.4ghz with a sandy bridge,
so if he would run it at 5.0ghz his gflops should be about 130-135,
if i use my 2 gflops per 100mhz..

your 3570K should have more gflops then a 3770K of course,
if i disable my HT my gflops would be higher,

4.5ghz HT on, 101 gflops


4.5ghz HT off, 119 gflops



so for me 4.5ghz 101 gflops with HT on,
i would end up with about 110 gflops at 5.0ghz,

i dont think i have that phantom instability like the guy said,
my gflops are going up liniair like IDC tried to explain too, im not to worried about it anyways,
learned long time ago in this thread gflops arent very very important, depends on to many factors
that can make differences between them, like i said , only if its of big time compared to others,
you might want to look at it some more..
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looks to me you cant oc much more then you have now,
if you need 1.414-1.424V vcore for 4.6ghz..
in your case the temps are still ok, but your vcore limits you to oc much further,
youre sure you cant get the vcore down more at 4.6ghz?
Nope it gets failed worker in prime
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Nope it gets failed worker in prime

most of us delid because they run into temp problems,
and are limited that way to oc higher, yours seems to be the
other way around, your temps are still good, but you run into vcore limit
before to high temps..
i prolly wouldnt delid it, and run 4.5-4.6ghz daily oc smile.gif
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Guys, how safe is to keep CPU at 1.35V everyday, hottest core in prime95 is 80C, avarage is 70-75C?

Thx.

I also noticed i can now run 4.8 GHz, before that was impossible.
Edited by sena - 2/13/13 at 2:09am
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Had to read over 200 posts... This club is going fast! biggrin.gif
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Guys, how safe is to keep CPU at 1.35V everyday, hottest core in prime95 is 80C, avarage is 70-75C?

Thx.
ive ran 1.38v volts for about a month now and had no problems so far, if u can keep temps low then your good.. i see ppl here running 1.35 to 1.52v.
heres my 12 hr prime run but had to up up voltage a tad becasue i had a couple whe errors. now im @1.385v and no more whea errors
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