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I can boot 5 giggles at 1.43 vcore. So take a while on LLC and PLL and mess with them, you might be able to squeeze some speed out of it it takes some tweaking though. rolleyes.gif

...excellent numbers for 5 giggles ! For next-step tuning, you might want to try Intel's 'Extreme Tuning Utility' as it seems to deal with PLL and LLC automatically but very well - and doesn't automatically throw as much vCore at things like Asus AI suite does. Intel's Utility will let you adjust vCore way up - but not actually apply more than 1.525 +- but by the sounds of it, you're well within the safe range thumb.gif
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LLC or Load Line Calibration set it to 100% or 125% dependant on the person. 100% will only let the set amount of vcore that you put in bios to flow through, 125% adds 25% etc etc. For PLL you can sometimes be lucky and get a good chip where it likes PLL voltage changes like mine did a lot, with this you can get stable sometimes but can't go above 1.9volts in that range unless your on LN2 or Dice... atleast that's my way of doing it. Also what RAM you got in there as well? higher RAM speeds can cause issues with OC'ing sometimes, I know when I pull mine at 2400 7-11-8-27 they can get cranky going above 5 giggles.

It doesn't give %125 it only allows +25,+50,+75, and +100.
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Vdroop control can stay on auto for the mpower, it sets 100% at default for minimum vdroop. I didn't think PLL voltage made any difference for anything under 5.5Ghz, never had to raise it, got no benefits from lowering it, so generally leave it auto as well.

Ill have to change that then. Thanks.
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Vdroop control can stay on auto for the mpower, it sets 100% at default for minimum vdroop. I didn't think PLL voltage made any difference for anything under 5.5Ghz, never had to raise it, got no benefits from lowering it, so generally leave it auto as well.

Yeah I found it very weird that my last chip loved it so much I could drop vcore by .06 and raise PLL by .3 and get it stable... Franky was a weird one lol
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...excellent numbers for 5 giggles ! For next-step tuning, you might want to try Intel's 'Extreme Tuning Utility' as it seems to deal with PLL and LLC automatically but very well - and doesn't automatically throw as much vCore at things like Asus AI suite does. Intel's Utility will let you adjust vCore way up - but not actually apply more than 1.525 +- but by the sounds of it, you're well within the safe range thumb.gif

Thanks! I just need some time to delid this bad lady for once...... might do it this weekend... but I have no means on how to stream the damn thing... I have streaming accounts but no camera right now lol rolleyes.gif
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It doesn't give %125 it only allows +25,+50,+75, and +100.
Ill have to change that then. Thanks.

try the +25 and +50 those are the 25% and 50% over 100 percent ie. 125% and 150% thumb.gif
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Successfully delidded my 3770K, temp drops to 69 C from 88 C, I'm using Liquid Pro, I was on AS5, ambient @ 29C. The chip is 3 days old and more OC to come...boooyaah:thumb:
Btw I will post my result of OC later after more stress test
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Successfully delidded my 3770K, temp drops to 69 C from 88 C, I'm using Liquid Pro, I was on AS5, ambient @ 29C. The chip is 3 days old and more OC to come...boooyaah:thumb:
Btw I will post my result of OC later after more stress test

I'll wait to admit you myself but your in the spreadsheet lol, I want the OC results for the rest of the admittance lol thumb.gif
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Yeah I found it very weird that my last chip loved it so much I could drop vcore by .06 and raise PLL by .3 and get it stable... Franky was a weird one lol
Thanks! I just need some time to delid this bad lady for once...... might do it this weekend... but I have no means on how to stream the damn thing... I have streaming accounts but no camera right now lol rolleyes.gif
try the +25 and +50 those are the 25% and 50% over 100 percent ie. 125% and 150% thumb.gif

Some people seem to do well lowering PLL, I've tried it on a few chips & found it didn't make a difference, no lower temps, not more stable, still needed the same vcore.

The 25% & 50% actually make more vdroop, in the MSI bios it is basically at max LLC on auto, changing it to anything else just increases the vdroop (so would need more vcore to compensate). Most boards work opposite, having high vdroop at auto & less with higher LLC.
    
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Successfully delidded my 3770K, temp drops to 69 C from 88 C, I'm using Liquid Pro, I was on AS5, ambient @ 29C. The chip is 3 days old and more OC to come...boooyaah:thumb:
Btw I will post my result of OC later after more stress test
Nice job! Looking forward to some pics and how much oc you gained.
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Some people seem to do well lowering PLL, I've tried it on a few chips & found it didn't make a difference, no lower temps, not more stable, still needed the same vcore.

The 25% & 50% actually make more vdroop, in the MSI bios it is basically at max LLC on auto, changing it to anything else just increases the vdroop (so would need more vcore to compensate). Most boards work opposite, having high vdroop at auto & less with higher LLC.

eeeww.... I dont like that at all..... puke.gif
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I don't like Msi, except for gpu's and only the lightning and hawk models. xD g'night folks!
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eeeww.... I dont like that at all..... puke.gif

They make it easy, smallest vdroop at default, you actually have to change settings to get vdroop.
Unless you prefer more vdroop what's not to like?
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I don't like Msi, except for gpu's and only the lightning and hawk models. xD g'night folks!

The boards are great, you can use high end intel msi mobos to win mid range mobos in competitions at hwbot, & AMD msi mobos.... who doesn't like fireworks?biggrin.gif
    
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