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post #11741 of 33651
okay so I found out what was wrong. Aparantly if you change the ratio on the MSI board it overrides all powersaving features so It wont downclock on idle... Not a big problem but I dont want to be running 5ghz on load do im burning my chip currently at 4.5ghz @ 1.32 volts. Temps are maxing at 61c.
post #11742 of 33651
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Originally Posted by Swag View Post

Kinda annoying you can't see the RAM because of the cooler but whatever. Also, it is an mATX board so not as tiny as you'd think. I went for this one because it was a great deal from MicroCenter and who would pass up an Asus ROG?

I could pass up anything Asus thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

Application for the club.

More info on my de-lidding can be found here:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1357638/my-i7-3770k-de-lidding-adventure

At first I thought I screwed up the IMC - but that turned out to be my Asus Sabertooth and NOT the CPU causing the RAM problems.
Thus I successfully de-lidded my chip.

OCN name: Totally Dubbed
CPU: I7 3770K
on die-TIM: Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra
ihs-TIM: Arctic MX-2
Mhz gained: N/A
OC after delid: 4.5Ghz
Temp drops: 12c with Folding comparison. 20c with IBT comparison
CPU-Z validation of max OC: http://valid.canardpc.com/2650772
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Temperature pictures:
Folding 60hrs Before de-lid - 92c max temp


Folding 9hrs AFTER de-lid - 80c max temp



IBT Pictures: (I used to have MX-2 on the die with a max temp of 82c, then I put CLU on it and got a max temp of 72c -> thus MX-2 was 10c worse than CLU)
CLU (Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra) de-lid max temp: 72c (Click to show)

ARCTIC MX-2 de-lid max temp: 82c (Click to show)
No de-lid max temp: 91c (Click to show)

Pictures:
De-lidded picture




Clean CPU & PCB:



CLU applied:






My picture with my OCN name:


Cheers for all the help from Swag and Valguar!

Been waiting a while to type this one! Your IN, now slap that awesome sig you've been waiting for and worrying that your chip was dead! Show your great work to everyone! thumb.giftongue.gif Your welcome for the help, and if anyone wants my help for any reason let me know! tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by JoeTesla View Post

Success!

I don't have 'official' temps from before, and I also changed my MB..

but before, using a sabertooth z77 and a 'lidded' 3770k I counldn't run 4.8 without reaching 90+ degrees, on water.

I de-lidded and lapped to 1500, used CLP on die and on IHS.

running a MSI MPOWER now, 4.9ghz at 1.425v, temps will not go above 63-64 running IBT/OCCT+AVX/Prime95 blend.

My chip won't do 5ghz though, not at 1.54v and I don't want to go higher.

Congratulations on the sucess! but I'm just curious what batch number is you chip though? I've seen some chips have that crazy vcore wall jump for the 50 multi, it's really strange when it happens too. Lets see if we can't figure this out for you. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Valgaur View Post

Been waiting a while to type this one! Your IN, now slap that awesome sig you've been waiting for and worrying that your chip was dead! Show your great work to everyone! thumb.giftongue.gif Your welcome for the help, and if anyone wants my help for any reason let me know! tongue.gif
Congratulations on the sucess! but I'm just curious what batch number is you chip though? I've seen some chips have that crazy vcore wall jump for the 50 multi, it's really strange when it happens too. Lets see if we can't figure this out for you. thumb.gif

Cheers man smile.gif

Oh I'll get a more recent CPUZ validation when I get my new board back in....oh dear just remember all this OC'ing voltage starts all over again haha (different board means different CPU voltage, who knows might be at 1.25 instead of 1.27)
post #11745 of 33651
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Originally Posted by FtW 420 View Post

They make it easy, smallest vdroop at default, you actually have to change settings to get vdroop.
Unless you prefer more vdroop what's not to like?
The boards are great, you can use high end intel msi mobos to win mid range mobos in competitions at hwbot, & AMD msi mobos.... who doesn't like fireworks?biggrin.gif

Yeah, that sounds nice but I doubt I can win any kind of competition atm.
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Originally Posted by VonDutch View Post

i been using black viper's config's for years now,
used to be a list, now the guy has a whole website i just noticed..
http://www.blackviper.com/service-configurations/black-vipers-windows-7-service-pack-1-service-configurations/
hes got several, win 8 , win 7 sp1 etc etc..he did/does a great job..check the guide tab to look for your config,
the link is for win 7, sp1..
hmm, maybe i should change it back? ...lol biggrin.gif
i just like the name on that suitcase,
but the spinning ihs on the die is great too,
a heck ...w8 ...

there ...all VonDutch again ..lol

Blackviper is the man! Those configs are good for stripping your os prior to benching.
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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

I could pass up anything Asus thumb.gif

You haven't tried the MVG yet have you?
The Saberpoop is by no means a fair comparison...completely different leagues. Go check hwbot for results, one of the best (if not the best) bang/buck boards for high end overclocking. Bios is SUPERB!
post #11746 of 33651
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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

Cheers man smile.gif

Also I used your LP/U applications pics on the front page under the TIM listings. thumb.gif
post #11747 of 33651
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

son...completely different leagues. Go check hwbot for results, one of the best (if not the best) bang/buck boards for high end overclocking. Bios is SUPERB!
Never said that bro - I just dislike Asus haha
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Originally Posted by Valgaur View Post

Also I used your LP/U applications pics on the front page under the TIM listings. thumb.gif

Oh sweet!
You have a lot more pics on my thread btw - feel free to take any of them!
post #11748 of 33651
Faster ram or overclocking your ram will give you better benchmarks, like the 3dmark11 physics score goes up by hundreds of points, and Maxmem will show better numbers.

But does it make any difference at all when gaming, multitasking, doing extensive calculations, etc.? I have read that is does make some difference, but others say that with Ivy Bridge and DDR3 1600 you won't notice real world day to day difference by going beyond that.

Any opinions?
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Kinda annoying you can't see the RAM because of the cooler but whatever. Also, it is an mATX board so not as tiny as you'd think. I went for this one because it was a great deal from MicroCenter and who would pass up an Asus ROG?

I could pass up anything Asus thumb.gif

Why? Bad experience with Asus?
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post #11750 of 33651
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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

Faster ram or overclocking your ram will give you better benchmarks, like the 3dmark11 physics score goes up by hundreds of points, and Maxmem will show better numbers.

But does it make any difference at all when gaming, multitasking, doing extensive calculations, etc.? I have read that is does make some difference, but others say that with Ivy Bridge and DDR3 1600 you won't notice real world day to day difference by going beyond that.

Any opinions?

I can't stand stock components normally...unless it's some sort of glorious chip or stick I'd rather keep safe for benching, I oc all I can, and specially ram...it's fun to tweak it biggrin.gif
You won't see a big difference, even a stock ivy won't show a big difference when gaming and with real life usage but still we delid chips and oc them to 5ghz for 24/7 use, so what's the deal with ram these days? tongue.gif
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