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Alright so I am satisfied now.... Pay attention Von or Val.

My results:
OCN name: DiamondCut
CPU: i5-3570K
on die-TIM: CLP
ihs-TIM: CLP
Mhz gained: 800mhz
OC after delid: 4.8ghz
Temp drops: 25c
CPU-Z validation of max OC: http://valid.canardpc.com/2695013



You in! slap that sig on! thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

Best way I have found to delid is wear some surgical gloves. You don't have to worry about static, or getting dirt, oils, sweat, etc. on the chip from your hands. Find the best corner then center the razor blade on it so the corners of the blade never touch the pcb. Put a little upward pressure/tilt to the blade so it is angled ever so slightly toward the bottom of the IHS and away from the PCB. The PCB will bend slightly but that is ok if you are being careful, and it will happen naturally just because of the blade being pushed in.

My hands would get tired or cramped so I would just put the chip down and rest for a minute if I was ever feeling aggravated or impatient, which I definitely felt several times during the process.

Then you just rock the blade back and forth keeping in mind where the die is per the pictures on Swag's guide. You don't need to come close to the die at any point to get it delidded. Do each corner, then try to rock the blade back and forth while you try to get to the center of one of the sides. Trying to get the blade under the middle of side vs. a corner is too hard and dangerous. Try to work the blade over to the middle once you have it under a corner, all the while giving it a hint of upward tilt to avoid the PCB. You should be able to reach the middle of a side from each corner.

It will still seem stuck when you think you should be done, but you can carefully rotate the IHS while holding the PCB when it is ready to be twisted off.

completely agree! Thats why I use gloves as well?
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You in! slap that sig on! thumb.gif
completely agree! Thats why I use gloves as well?

Which one? I already have the club one in my sig.
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Originally Posted by DiamondCut View Post

Which one? I already have the club one in my sig.

your in the spreadsheet now tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by megawatz View Post

Head was removed and had AS5 on it, so it's getting re-delidded and putting CLU on that BAMF.
your guna be amazed by the temp drop thumb.gif
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wheeeee!







Sweet man! M
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wheeeee!








So sick I had to show it twice! Nice build! Would be a dream rig for me mr moneybags! Or mr hungry man!
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Didn't you put the eraser before pressing down the latch there?
I thought that was the way people normally went about it...also that's phase insulation right? tongue.gif
Do you think I can run on air with eraser in the socket? Or am I gonna have to peel it off after each run? :/
biggrin.gif awesome! Off with its head!

Latched it & then filled with eraser. I do the same for phase or ln2, as long as no air can get at the socket, can't get condensation. I don't use vaseline in the socket.
I run insulated boards for air & water all the time, it's all good. The one in the pic was being used air cooled, I can't mount the heatsink or the mvg loses a memory channel, so just sit the HS on the cpu & go. I pulled the heatsink off for that pic.
I have a couple boards completely covered in 1/4" of dragon skin (full board, front & back), those are good for air as well.
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yea that is most likely what happened... but heres my real problem.... My motherboard doesnt support offset voltage because the VRM's are analog. So If I adjust my core ratio it will disable all speed step and power saving features.... So when I don't leave it and adjust it to clock up to 48 ratio with speed step I have to change the voltage and so that is correlating to me having the cpu idle with 1.42volts.... The odd thing is when it clocks up to 4.8ghz the voltage reading in cpu-z lowers to ~1.40 volts. I don't know if its my vdroop or not but I have that to +100% (which is %200 if I understand that auto is 100% and then the aditional 100%) My temps are fine, I just wan't to get the lowest volts possible so I don't suck the life out of my i5.

It isn't always using the power when idle, so will have very little effect on the life of the chip or the electric bill whether the voltage drops at idle or not. Chip might live 9 3/4 years instead of 10, or cost an extra $1 a month in power. If that much.
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I'll give it a go, so what is bothering me is why the voltage is dropping when it clocks up, I want to make sure its not a stability problem and I want to get it as low as possible. I had it stable on 4.5 at 1.32 volts

A little vdroop is normal, it's actually a protection mechanism for the cpu, switching load states can cause momentary power spikes where it can pull more, vdroop helps it keep from overshooting the set voltage by too much.
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wheeeee!

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Can you add me pls.redface.gif

OCN name: Sena
CPU: Intel i5 3570K
on die-TIM: Collaboratoy Liquid Pro
ihs-TIM: Gelid-GC extreme
Mhz gained: 300 MHz so far
OC after delid: 4800 MHz
Temp drops: 20C
CPU-Z validation of max OC: http://valid.canardpc.com/2692045
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Latched it & then filled with eraser. I do the same for phase or ln2, as long as no air can get at the socket, can't get condensation. I don't use vaseline in the socket.
I run insulated boards for air & water all the time, it's all good. The one in the pic was being used air cooled, I can't mount the heatsink or the mvg loses a memory channel, so just sit the HS on the cpu & go. I pulled the heatsink off for that pic.
I have a couple boards completely covered in 1/4" of dragon skin (full board, front & back), those are good for air as well.
It isn't always using the power when idle, so will have very little effect on the life of the chip or the electric bill whether the voltage drops at idle or not. Chip might live 9 3/4 years instead of 10, or cost an extra $1 a month in power. If that much.
A little vdroop is normal, it's actually a protection mechanism for the cpu, switching load states can cause momentary power spikes where it can pull more, vdroop helps it keep from overshooting the set voltage by too much.
Looks good, can't believe you managed to fill that huge case!

I.M.O.G. had a ton of problems with vaseline in the socket area with his MVG's so I'm straying clear of it...Only eraser should do, I'll be doing dice anyway.
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