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first off, nice job feniks thumb.gif

ive noticed, and read about it too, you can see for yourself if you compare
delidded pics,



that the side im pointing at is open, that has a goal too,
its a way to get heat out of there..
i would leave it open next time, well, if there is a next time,
im not taking apart mine if i dont have to, it works so ..dont touch..lol
Edited by VonDutch - 10/20/12 at 9:45pm
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yeah, I've seen those videos for both kinds of CLL paste, hence why I went with Ultra - creates a thicker layer (easier to make a proper contact on first try) and is extremely easy to clean even with 70% alcohol and paper towels! It's like mercury when you work with it and brushing it on. based on reviews and opinions from other people temps are similar even though Pro has twice the thermal conductivity of Ultra.
Ultra is very good and extremely easy to work with (easier than ICD Diamond for sure), there is nothing extra needed to clean it and the package contains brushes for application and some scratch pad to removal in future (if it gets more slid, I guess, otherwise paper towels and alcohol removes it)

On a IHS results are close on the Die LP is beating LU by an AVG of 5 c cause of twice the thermal conductivity .. It is pure Liquid Ultra is not.. they made it friendly for people hence having to add unpure things to it.

I do not consider myself a Novice and rather have better results then make it easy so Liquid pro was the only choice for me..

My temp drops were 27-28c i just have 25c on there for a nice rounded number.
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On a IHS results are close on the Die LP is beating LU by an AVG of 5 c cause of twice the thermal conductivity .. It is pure Liquid Ultra is not.. they made it friendly for people hence having to add unpure things to it.
My temp drops were 27-28c i just have 25c on there for a nice rounded number.

yep, had the same, 27-28C biggest difference using Pro,
25C i used for the rounded number ...LOL
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yep, had the same, 27-28C biggest difference using Pro,
25C i used for the rounded number ...LOL

Yeah the stuff is shocking.. And it is not so hard to apply i donno what noob scared ppl off of it..

Just wiggle it a bit to get it warm.. and it spreads like butter lol. I think it is more easy then IC diamond to work with.. atleast my Test batch stuff is thick like glue... and you have to heat it or do the line "very thick" or put a huge double pea sized gop in the middle to make it spread correctly.
    
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first off, nice job feniks thumb.gif
ive noticed, and read about it too, you can see for yourself if you compare
delidded pics,

that the side im pointing at is open, that has a goal too,
its a way to get heat out of there..
i would leave it open next time, well, if there is a next time,
im not taking apart mine if i dont have to, it works so ..dont touch..lol
interesting pointer smile.gif
I missed that. might be I re-do this again tomorrow, 4th attempt! wink.gif

however as I stated before, my CPU degraded a bit in last 4 weeks ... and it did again ... frown.gif
might need to RMA it in less than a month, will see. I found 1 brownish mark on the underside of CPU (where the terminals are), it's not visible at first, but after looking at different angles it stays in same spot and is always there no matter how hard I rub it with alcohol and paper towels or q-tips ... my CPU had it before I delided it (I thought I cleaned it off last time I looked at underside), so I guess it only explains why it degraded in first place ... and why it keeps doing it ... it's slowly dying IMHO, and I only make it die faster by forcing it to run higher and higher clocks and vcore... he he, all I can say, is I will make it die in glory biggrin.gif

time will tell. currently I am unable to stabilize 5GHz OC at room temps (24C) due to temperatures on cores 1 & 2 becoming too high under load ... other cores stays good 20C colder under load ... so maybe that opening you marked is the trick ... or maybe at least one of cores of my CPU is degrading fast and I am simply watching it die ...
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On a IHS results are close on the Die LP is beating LU by an AVG of 5 c cause of twice the thermal conductivity .. It is pure Liquid Ultra is not.. they made it friendly for people hence having to add unpure things to it.
I do not consider myself a Novice and rather have better results then make it easy so Liquid pro was the only choice for me..
My temp drops were 27-28c i just have 25c on there for a nice rounded number.
well, I know at least 1 person, who achieved 30C drop in temps by using CLL Ultra ... so ... maybe Pro is better maybe not (considering downsides and CoolLaboratory statement that it's designed for copper only and NOT aluminum), but in real world comparison the results are pretty close anyways. considering the downsides of using Pro paste, I picked easier Ultra and am happy with it. Possibly I could have achieved better results with Pro paste IF I did it right the first try, Ultra is not far behind anyways...
Edited by feniks - 10/20/12 at 9:59pm
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interesting pointer smile.gif
I missed that. might be I re-do this again tomorrow, 4th attempt! wink.gif
however as I stated before, my CPU degraded a bit in last 4 weeks ... and it did again ... frown.gif
might need to RMA it in less than a month, will see. I found 1 brownish mark on the underside of CPU (where the terminals are), it's not visible at first, but after looking at different angles it stays in same spot and is always there no matter how hard I rub it with alcohol and paper towels ... my CPU had it before I delided it, so I guess it only explains why it degraded in first place ... and why it keep doing it ... it's slowly dying IMHO, and I only make it die faster by forcing it to run higher and higher clocks and vcore...
time will tell. currently I am unable to stabilize 5GHz OC at room temps (24C) due to temperatures on cores 1 & 2 becoming too high under load ... other cores stays good 20C colder under load ... so maybe that opening you marked is the trick ... or maybe at least one of cores of my CPU is degrading fast and I am simply watching it die ...
well, I know at least 1 person, who achieved 30C drop in temps by using CLL Ultra ... so ... maybe Pro is better maybe not (considering downsides and CoolLaboratory statement that it's designed for copper only and NOT aluminum), but in real world comparison the results are pretty close anyways. considering the downsides of using Pro paste, I picked easier Ultra and am happy with it. Possibly I could have achieved better results with Pro paste IF I did it right the first try, Ultra is not far behind anyways...

5 c can be alot depending on what is going on..

Also u can put LP ontop of LP so you do get a 2nd try.. i put mine ontop of it's self after i had already mounted it once cause it was not thick enough and got the 27-28c temp drop.

Anywho off to play Borderlands 2 with gpus hitting 45 c max and cpu barely touching 50c <3 LP
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5 c can be alot depending on what is going on..
Also u can put LP ontop of LP so you do get a 2nd try.. i put mine ontop of it's self after i had already mounted it once cause it was not thick enough and got the 27-28c temp drop.
Anywho off to play Borderlands 2 with gpus hitting 45 c max and cpu barely touching 50c <3 LP

good point on putting one layer atop another, I agree!
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another tip,



where i put the red rectangle, that little thing there, is higher then the pcb,
if you put back the IHS, keep in mind if you close the bracket, it will slide a bit forward,
if your not carefull, it will make the IHS go up , maybe just enough to give higher temps on some of the cores smile.gif

i wanted to take the black thing off, but didnt know if i would scratch the pcb doing so,
so what i did was putting the IHS more to the backside. and let the bracket slide it more to the front,
trying not to let the IHS touch the black thingy to much..


(srry, my english sometimes limits me to explain things very well,
hope you understand what im trying to say smile.gif )
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however as I stated before, my CPU degraded a bit in last 4 weeks ... and it did again ... frown.gif
might need to RMA it in less than a month, will see. I found 1 brownish mark on the underside of CPU (where the terminals are), it's not visible at first, but after looking at different angles it stays in same spot and is always there no matter how hard I rub it with alcohol and paper towels or q-tips ... my CPU had it before I delided it (I thought I cleaned it off last time I looked at underside), so I guess it only explains why it degraded in first place ... and why it keeps doing it ... it's slowly dying IMHO, and I only make it die faster by forcing it to run higher and higher clocks and vcore... he he, all I can say, is I will make it die in glory biggrin.gif
time will tell. ...

Hey feniks, one thing to consider is what some deliders have found, that since the die and IHS now touch, and there is some thermal heat/cool action taking place, that this can cause a "pumping" action that slowly removes some TIMs over time and can also create voids. This made those affected by this see temps rise over time, and the higher temps can reduced chips performance. So they would then reapply new TIM every few weeks to bring back the improved temps.

What TIM are you using between the die and IHS?

Maybe see if reapplying some new TIM between the die and IHS fixes the problem...
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another tip,

where i put the red rectangle, that little thing there, is higher then the pcb,
if you put back the IHS, keep in mind if you close the bracket, it will slide a bit forward,
if your not carefull, it will make the IHS go up , maybe just enough to give higher temps on some of the cores smile.gif
i wanted to take the black thing off, but didnt know if i would scratch the pcb doing so,
so what i did was putting the IHS more to the backside. and let the bracket slide it more to the front,
trying not to let the IHS touch the black thingy to much..
(srry, my english sometimes limits me to explain things very well,
hope you understand what im trying to say smile.gif )

Meh you got the red light dist tho man all of us other guys only dream of having women like that in the windows when we walk down town lol..
    
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