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Does anyone have any additional tips for delidding from personal experiences, such as methods you found to be effective?
(Yes, I have read the OP and all links tied)
Cheers. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by BradleyW View Post

Does anyone have any additional tips for delidding from personal experiences, such as methods you found to be effective?
(Yes, I have read the OP and all links tied)
Cheers. smile.gif
I cut one corner and then used a thin credit card to cut around the rest. No chance of damage after the first corner.
I used one of those cheap thin papery ones that you get from arcade places and the like.
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That's pretty weird. I don't mess with anything inside of the OS tho. I monitor voltage and temps, but I edit everything inside of the UEFI. I'm sure I didn't go above 1.6v. I did 1.57 max iirc, and that was just trying to get 5.3 validated. Maybe the board did overvolt it or something, or I messed up some where and didn't notce. But stuff happens. Hopefully I don't get another crap chip when I go back tongue.gif
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I cut one corner and then used a thin credit card to cut around the rest. No chance of damage after the first corner.
I used one of those cheap thin papery ones that you get from arcade places and the like.

This is exactly what I plan on doing. Gonna try to get a blade in one corner, then once I get a CC or something in it, I'll just use that the rest of the way thumb.gif
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I cut one corner and then used a thin credit card to cut around the rest. No chance of damage after the first corner.
I used one of those cheap thin papery ones that you get from arcade places and the like.

Nice tip. Cheers.
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I know you say - 50c lol, but here is an interesting thought. A chip at 1.6v @ 50c will only last as long as the same chip at 1.6v @ 70c. Temps don't mean much when you start playing with high voltage. The higher vcore will kill the chip faster than temps will ever kill it. This gives watercooling people a false sence of security to overclock too high assuming they are safe because their temps look good.

That's absolutely not true...If you run your chip at too high voltages you need really low temps for it to live and respond better to the voltage. (cold makes it easier for the electrons to travel freely through your chip, whereas adding moar volts like mad won't do that as effectively, eventually causing electromigration, and thus failed oc's or premature death/degrading)
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How are you getting your RAM to run so high everyone? I can't go past stock without issues.


You have 4 sticks, and they are rated for 1600mhz. That implies they are nothing special, probably a type of crappy ram ic (like Nanya or something).
People use specific types of ram chips for overclocking, like Samsung Hyk0 (generic 1600mhz cl11 1.35v stuff, found in higher clocked G.skill trident x and corsair dominator platinum sticks for example), or specific older ic's like Powerchip or Elpida BBSE...You just need one of those for any kind of decent overclocking.
Also, using 4 sticks is much harder on your cpu's memory controller, so you might get better results with 2 x 4gb sticks vs 4. Though it depends on your ram chips in the end.
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Does anyone have any additional tips for delidding from personal experiences, such as methods you found to be effective?
(Yes, I have read the OP and all links tied)
Cheers. smile.gif

...in my case it was good to have bandages ready (no really biggrin.gif )

When you have watched everything re delidding vids etc, just make sure you have plenty of time and nobody is bugging you - it is a delicate operation and requires full concentration (no cats jumping on you, per other posts)

BUT THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ITEM: Don't let the TIP of the blade EVER enter the area above the PCB - the outside boundary of the PCB + 1/4 inch when looking down should be the closest the tip of the blade even comes to the PCB...not doing that seems to be the number 1 reason for PCB scratches...do less cutting and more severing and angle the center of the blade just a bit upwards towards the underside of the IHS.

Also keep some MX4 handy...if against expectations there is a scratch on the PCB, use (non-conductive, non-capacitive) MX4 to cover it richly (some say nail polish also works)

GOOD LUCK
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

That's absolutely not true...If you run your chip at too high voltages you need really low temps for it to live and respond better to the voltage. (cold makes it easier for the electrons to travel freely through your chip, whereas adding moar volts like mad won't do that as effectively, eventually causing electromigration, and thus failed oc's or premature death/degrading)
You have 4 sticks, and they are rated for 1600mhz. That implies they are nothing special, probably a type of crappy ram ic (like Nanya or something).
People use specific types of ram chips for overclocking, like Samsung Hyk0 (generic 1600mhz cl11 1.35v stuff, found in higher clocked G.skill trident x and corsair dominator platinum sticks for example), or specific older ic's like Powerchip or Elpida BBSE...You just need one of those for any kind of decent overclocking.
Also, using 4 sticks is much harder on your cpu's memory controller, so you might get better results with 2 x 4gb sticks vs 4. Though it depends on your ram chips in the end.

What I mean overall is that watercoolers could be more inclined to add too high of a voltage seen as their temps are very good. This can be dangerous in some cases. Higher voltage over time will cause issues compared to running a componant at a slight too high of a temperature. You might disagree, but I do stand by that based on what I've seen from peoples experiences. Also, my sig rig states that the RAM is made by GS (RipjawsX Series), but it rated at 1600Mhz. I just thought I might be able to increase the speed possibly.
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...in my case it was good to have bandages ready (no really biggrin.gif )

When you have watched everything re delidding vids etc, just make sure you have plenty of time and nobody is bugging you - it is a delicate operation and requires full concentration (no cats jumping on you, per other posts)

BUT THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ITEM: Don't let the TIP of the blade EVER enter the area above the PCB - the outside boundary of the PCB + 1/4 inch when looking down should be the closest the tip of the blade even comes to the PCB...not doing that seems to be the number 1 reason for PCB scratches...do less cutting and more severing and angle the center of the blade just a bit upwards towards the underside of the IHS.

Also keep some MX4 handy...if against expectations there is a scratch on the PCB, use (non-conductive, non-capacitive) MX4 to cover it richly (some say nail polish also works)

GOOD LUCK

So, I use the side of the blade and never the tip of it. I also must the blade angled slightly upper towards the IHS and I am to be mindful of the CPU die? It that correct?
Edited by BradleyW - 2/26/13 at 3:20pm
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Bradley you are right.
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Bradley you are right.
Cheers. I can't wait to remove the IHS. I will be doing it on thursday as my CLU and antistatic band come.
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Yes, cats are awful to have around while delidding. That I can testify to.
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