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Almost asked a dumb question about whether you put the heat spreader back on after delidding and applying better themal compound?
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Originally Posted by Zeek View Post

Voltages again. Chip just hits a wall at 4.8. Anyway I was going to return it this weekend and get a new chip. Guess I'll just return it as dead and get a free one tongue.gif MicroCenter <3 biggrin.gif


well in that case rolleyes.gif . ...you sound like a happy widower getting ready for a new date biggrin.gifthumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Joa3d43 View Post

well in that case rolleyes.gif . ...you sound like a happy widower getting ready for a new date biggrin.gifthumb.gif
And hopefully this will be a good date and she'll let me take her clothes off biggrin.gif

Seriously tho, I hope I get a good chip so I can finally take a stab at deliding tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by Joa3d43 View Post

Next Year's Delidding ?

...from the department of are you going to believe the rumour I'm about to start...biggrin.gif

On two occasions today, I heard from people 'in the industry' that:

1.) Haswell may have been delayed a bit further in order to get a bigger performance lead over IvyB
2.) There may be no IvyB-E but Haswell-E instead
3.) The next performance chipset will be called X99 (replacing X79); while upper middle segment will be Z87 (replacing Z77)

Re 1, the problem is that Haswell and IvyB are too close together in performance (except iGPU graphics). This graph from a month ago is reportedly re an engineering sample (2.8GHZ, just like the IvyB counter part in this test)




...if you look at the number of folks just in this thread that are running their IvyB's at 4.8 or faster, it does become clearer that there may be a marketing problem to release a 'new chip' that tops out at 3.9 / T.

...that said, Intel can easily adjust Haswell speed via some of the steps we have been discussing (diff. TIM / gap), because nobody in their right mind believes that they are going back to tape-out. Either way, Haswell will be much more powerful on the iGPU side, giving lower to mid-range AMD / NVidia s.th. to worry about though the performance crowd like us would use single or multiple discreet GPUs anyways.

On 2.) and 3.), Intel already has filed trade papers that confirm that the next '-E' will be LG2011 (in addition to Xeon versions of course)...and X99 boards are apparently being prepped already re memory compatibility etc - that does not explain though whether the next '-E' is IvyB-E or an updated Haswell-E.

...bottom line: Keep your razor blades and Coollaboratory 'sauces' ready...in well less than a year, you might be at it again...and remember the intro folks, rumours only for now tongue.gif

haha cheers for the info smile.gif!
To be honest that performance increase isn't enough for even hardcore gamers to buy it.
Maybe HC overclockers might be interested...but that's it.

As for pricing, it will probably be more expensive, like anything new in this world.
If people are really concerned about the GPU - they could be a lowkey GPU and they'll beat the performance given.

For me technology, especially in mobiles and computers is FAR AHEAD for what consumers need or want - of course there are the extremes and enthusiasts etc, but generally speaking, the huge portion of the market, won't be interested in a 8core phone, nor a 12core CPU for a PC.
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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post



Awesome build Hokies83.
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Im only like 5 c over delta at idle lol..

And prime 95 maxing out at 55cish avg among cores with 1.53v pumping to it....

Moar rads,

I was thinking maybe needs some more fans???
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Originally Posted by Joa3d43 View Post

Next Year's Delidding ?

...from the department of are you going to believe the rumour I'm about to start...biggrin.gif

On two occasions today, I heard from people 'in the industry' that:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
1.) Haswell may have been delayed a bit further in order to get a bigger performance lead over IvyB
2.) There may be no IvyB-E but Haswell-E instead
3.) The next performance chipset will be called X99 (replacing X79); while upper middle segment will be Z87 (replacing Z77)

Re 1, the problem is that Haswell and IvyB are too close together in performance (except iGPU graphics). This graph from a month ago is reportedly re an engineering sample (2.8GHZ, just like the IvyB counter part in this test)



...if you look at the number of folks just in this thread that are running their IvyB's at 4.8 or faster, it does become clearer that there may be a marketing problem to release a 'new chip' that tops out at 3.9 / T.

...that said, Intel can easily adjust Haswell speed via some of the steps we have been discussing (diff. TIM / gap), because nobody in their right mind believes that they are going back to tape-out. Either way, Haswell will be much more powerful on the iGPU side, giving lower to mid-range AMD / NVidia s.th. to worry about though the performance crowd like us would use single or multiple discreet GPUs anyways.

On 2.) and 3.), Intel already has filed trade papers that confirm that the next '-E' will be LG2011 (in addition to Xeon versions of course)...and X99 boards are apparently being prepped already re memory compatibility etc - that does not explain though whether the next '-E' is IvyB-E or an updated Haswell-E.

...bottom line: Keep your razor blades and Coollaboratory 'sauces' ready...in well less than a year, you might be at it again...and remember the intro folks, rumours only for now tongue.gif

Thanks for the update Joa3d43. +Rep
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Sig rig chip is dead. Kinda over did it, again biggrin.gif

Zeek, what was the vcore that killed it? Don't worry, a bunch of us here have been at 1.65v or more (some much more....), so we have risked the same thing ourselves, but the data point of what did in your chip would be nice to know. Thanks.
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32 fans is enough for me lol..

It is built for silence and all those fans make about as much noise as i can take lol.

Plus the results are great but p/p would be better.
    
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I feel like doing it to my 3770K. Nothing to do and need some kind of project. To get MAX temp drop what thermal paste do i need? Also what kind of razer should i use?
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Had to go back to stock cooling for a bit frown.gif
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Had to go back to stock cooling for a bit frown.gif


Why ?
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The CLC was a friend's and it sold, the CM V6 went back into his build which is being sold, he needs money for senior trip.
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