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I don't think anyone is angry about this. However, I've seemed to upset some people when I asked about the 3 year warranty and the OC warranty. Why people have gotten upset about this I don't know. Also, a certain member thinks my question is related to RMA fraud or something like that, which again, I don't get how that conclusion has been made? If someone could explain to me then go ahead?
Not really mad at anyone in particular, it`s just that people damage items and expect the manufacturers to foot the bill. Talk like that is against the rules, should not really be discussed because it just gives people the idea that it is ok. Don`t worry, be happy ! lol
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Actually I'm curious to know how it works with the law: Buying a product and expecting it to hit better temps. But after modifications and thus voiding the warranty, grants you better temps. You could actually win a case against Intel. Think about it.
You could tell them and argue, having the average temperatures one should expect with it on stock should be in the product description, as that plays a vital role in your buying decisions of not only the chip but the cooling solutions you will need.
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Congrats ! thumb.gif I'm glad someone actually tried that. I had seen it before and posted about it here: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
...however, the original (in Germany) I referred to did not mention the exact amount to machine off...but since you have done it for real (and I'm thinking about it), the big magical question is biggrin.gif how much did the machinist take off (in mm with decimal pts, please) ...pleeeaaase smile.gif ...inquiring minds want to know, and so does our machinist biggrin.gif
IHS opening is> 17.5 mm X 23.5 mm , block surface area is 16 X 23.5 mm and is 4.3 mm deep from die surface to the main body of the block. Note that the actual die is only 10 X 19 mm, I purposely did it that way so the block would retain more thermal mass. Block being used should ideally have a micropin structure that sticks upwards from main block. Water blocks with groove machined into the bottom will most likely not have enough material to cut the rectangular die interface. Block I have will be triple plated with pure silver to aid conduction. Which brings me to the next project, no I`ll leave that to another time. Any way I hope that info helps a bit, Oops I forgot to add one big item. hole is offset upwards in the IHS so that it leaves a little more strength on the side that has a notch in it. Cheers ! thumb.gif
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How much volts do you need for 4.5Ghz?
Any other changes sucvh as PLL, ICH, VTT and so on?
enable pll overvoltage for high oc
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I put some CLP on a peanut butter sandwich. Now I idle at 93F instead of 98.6F, that's a 5.5F DROP!!!
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It's upsetting because this site is like anti-piracy and stuff (even though everyone here does it?). No hax'd windows, no loaders, and no abusing warranties and such.

Delidding pretty clearly voids the warranty, and returning the chip because of your own mess-ups just puts the cost of your mistake on everyone else as you hurt Intel, who has to eat that cost, and companies, like all economic animals, are going to shift that load, so us, the customer base, will likely eat part of your mistake too.

If you delid, you can always sell your chip used, delidded, you can even sell it on ebay as 'parts/not working' and still get most of your money back. Just understand it'll be unpopular here when you ask, basically 'hey guys want to pay for my mistake?". We'll help you if you ruin your chip, there are many legitimate things you can do, but lying and abusing warranty is not one of them.

Why is everyone going on about this? And why was I accused of this earlier?
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I put some CLP on a peanut butter sandwich. Now I idle at 93F instead of 98.6F, that's a 5.5F DROP!!!

In that case get your therapist to apply more volts in your next session.
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IHS opening is> 17.5 mm X 23.5 mm , block surface area is 16 X 23.5 mm and is 4.3 mm deep from die surface to the main body of the block. Note that the actual die is only 10 X 19 mm, I purposely did it that way so the block would retain more thermal mass. Block being used should ideally have a micropin structure that sticks upwards from main block. Water blocks with groove machined into the bottom will most likely not have enough material to cut the rectangular die interface. Block I have will be triple plated with pure silver to aid conduction. Which brings me to the next project, no I`ll leave that to another time. Any way I hope that info helps a bit, Oops I forgot to add one big item. hole is offset upwards in the IHS so that it leaves a little more strength on the side that has a notch in it. Cheers ! thumb.gif

... Rep+ added thumb.gifsmile.gif

THANK YOU so much for this highly specialized information, it will save us some trial, error and frustration (and probably the life of one test block)...when I got my CPU, it was a great performer out of the box but I called it 'ugly duckling' as the IHS was mounted slightly crooked (one side touched the PCB, the other lifted off the PCB by a fair margin)...also turns out that the IHS is quite curved on top, and lapping only does so much, never mind trying to lap the underside of the IHS 'evenly'...so running IHS-free seems like a good option

...kind of curious to learn more about your next project per teaser above...biggrin.gif
Edited by Joa3d43 - 3/4/13 at 1:19pm
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Guys, let it be...just don't discuss those sort of topics here. thumb.gif
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It is important to remember this is a public forum and that there is a lot of manufacturer support here. Based on previous posts it is reasonable that Intel intentionally made the TIM poorly transfer heat, if they hadn't, the chip would perform too well, which would reduce sales of SB-E and Haswell when it comes out. Having been involved in court myself, I know no one is going to go to court with intel over a $300 dollar CPU. It will cost you more just to consult a lawyer on the matter, going to court would be thousands more.

The moderators in charge of the forum need to make sure RMA fraud isn't discussed in order to maintain the credibility of the forum. We have to play by rules if we want to hang out here. I dual boot my rig and run an OS named after a fruit, but I can't discuss it here. It's just the way it is. Live with it and enjoy the benefits of OCN.
 
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