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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

Getting all the black glue off is a pain, but just take your time using an old credit card to get it off. It will come clean. In my opinion, a single edged razor blade made for shaving - not the kind made for utility or box cutting - works the best. Also a pair of rubber gloves makes it easier to handle without worry.

I found doing the above plus applying some isopropyl alcohol to the PCB also helped to get the glue off.
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Tomorrow I might take my rig apart again and clean the PCB. I left some silicon on it because it was hard to take off and I didn't want to scratch anything tongue.gif

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post #13473 of 33576
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Originally Posted by Zeek View Post

My local store lets me return CPU's if I don't like them, but that's for other reasons. Most stores/online retailers won't let you. Once you delidded the chip, you can't return it either as It voids all warranty
Like I said, try the chip out first anyway to make sure everything is good. The heating up won't really do anything because by the time you take the heatsink off and take it out of the socket it will already have cooled down.

I understand smile.gif Knowing I will get some form of temperature decrease is already a fact. My basic curiosity is if a brand new chip with the silicone and tim unheated would be easier to remove.
Reason I ask is because I'm obviously clueless and I don't know if the silicone glue is already activated or when you use the CPU it goes from paste to melted cheese
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Yes I am interested! my Cool Lab Ultra should be here tomorrow(Monday March11) let us compare notes.
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Yes I am interested! my Cool Lab Ultra should be here tomorrow(Monday March11) let us compare notes.
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Alright! Nice World Industries avatar btw
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...the joys of deliddedness...biggrin.gif

...as tricky as delidding can be, it certainly has its upsides...when I was first sent to this thread by PCWargamer, I thought these folks are 'nuts'...better get a chastity belt for my CPU socket before I do something stupid - like take a razor blade to a perfectly good CPU that ran fast at low 'v' @ 5GHz plus...

...well, I did something stupid, and there was also blood, a few scratches and divine intervention smile.gif What it did was to unleash a whole new performance envelope because now I could deal with temps when doing extensive, longer bench runs...a few more investments (ROG Maximums V Extreme, custom water loop etc) enabled more performance - but by far the biggest 'enabler for the results below' was the delidding...so thanks Valgaur for running a nice thread with great info which really helped get me there...smile.gif

...joined HWBot just two days ago, and yet got well over 20 world records in the enthusiast class for my video setup, though some extended beyond that...most of the time, my scores are smack in the middle of overclocked 680ies and 7970ies - and thanks to delidding, I can now compete against 3930ies 6 core / 12 thread machines running @ 5 GHz. biggrin.gif

The best part is that in those two days, I got over a 100 points for the Overclock.net team at HWbot ...a few more runs left for tomorrow - and this system is not yet fully maxed as I have to lap and straighten out a slightly crooked IHS, not to mention one of the 4 GPUs which really should be RMA'ed because of power leakage and does not perform well at all...mad.gif

...so if you are considering delidding, carefully study the process, cost and benefits - and ENJOY the outcome (hopefully)...either way, best of luck thumb.gif

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My 5ghz@+.285v offset (1.488v, 1.5 on DMM), Turbo LLC, with RAM oc (2400 8-12-8-28 with very tigh secondary/tertiary) lasted for 15 hours in p95 (i think i acidentally cut the power, not that it failed)

Have any of you guys played changed your PLL, VTT, or IMC voltages?

I set PLL to 1.5 and i think it caused WHEA errors (wow, i did not realize that kernel-WHEA and whea-logger errors in events log were signs of instability, that probably means a bunch of 24 hour prime95 stable overclocks ive done and others have done werent really stable we just didnt realize there were errors lol) so I changed it to 1.6 and seems okay.

Right now I'm trying to add reduced VTT/IMC voltages to the mix, it seems by reducing both from stock by .05v, from 1.05/.925 to 1.00/.875 has helped with temps a few degrees, and .985/.860 wasn't stable.

Just curious what others have done with their other voltages, what they normally get and such.
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Pll should be at 1.8 normally the lower you go could cause instability
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Tomorrow I might take my rig apart again and clean the PCB. I left some silicon on it because it was hard to take off and I didn't want to scratch anything tongue.gif

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I'm also going to clean up my silicon a little more before applying the CLU. I was also scared because I didn't want to scratch anything haha
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Using an old credit card to "scrape" the glue off works well. You just go slow and get the edge of the card to catch a little of the glue as you slide it and it will come off. You don't have to worry about hurting anything if you are being careful. There will usually still be a stain from the glue there, but the credit card will be able to remove any residue you can feel on the pcb.

It is one of those things that takes longer than it should, but the glue will pretty much all come off the pcb and IHS. I put the edge of the pcb on a clean piece of paper on my table, and kept the chip somewhat vertical. That way I could scrape the glue off without having to push down on the pcb and have to worry about the back side of it.
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