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^ Generally it's about 1-2fps for 100mhz, but with intel and these ivy bridges I think you'll likely see about 2-5fps per 100mhz. On cpu intensive games though. And what's more important is your minimum fps, not your average or max fps (which are more GPU related). CPU basically determines how bad your fps gets during some insane 64 man or 200vs200army situation, and how smooth the game is on that critical moment in the biggest part of the game. Obviously, this is a bigger deal in cpu intensive games like 64 mans or starcraft, but minimum fps being cpu related exists for all games.

The real difference comes if you stream though. If you stream your gameplay - and there's no reason not to if you got the power, just stream every game you have, make it private if you dont want people to watch and just have cool videos on storage online - overclocking makes a huge difference.

Depends on what you do (streaming, cpu intensive game) but 500mhz is a huge deal and definitely very noticeable in some spots. I mean that can very simply be the difference in 20 minimumfps like every other i7 overclocked gets on 4vs4 team RTS and 25-30fps which means you can play smoothly.

I mean my athlon was enough for my needs (it definitely needed to be unlocked and overclocked though, and while it was smooth enough it was definitely at 90%+ utilization the entire time, i could only do 45 fps not 60fps which is still a great stream and it looked better than most pro streams with i7s because I used the correct settings) but my i7 is definitely way smoother. I'll likely be posting tests later on comparing results (ht on, off, the difference in 5ghz vs 4.9ghz, 2400mhz ram vs 1600mhz, etc).
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Yea I've been playing a ton of Crysis 3 and with my failed delidded 3570k I was having a little trouble with the frames (nothing horrible or stuttery since I run two overclocked 7950's in x-fire), but it was hitting the low 40's sometimes when in outside environments and that bothers me. Now with the delidded 3770k I started the game over and everything is a lot smoother. Right when I got to that first outside environment I was nervous, but the game didn't even stutter with the transition and it stayed steady at 60fps. Its awesome to be able to run a game like that with maxed out graphic settings and 4x MSAA. Its really a work of art. Very happy with it! Very happy with everyone in this club! Very happy I killed my last chip!

I've spent the last month tweaking my system to push it further than what I had with my original overclock in the month after I purchased it, for a 1-2fps maximum gain. For the games I play I already sustained over 60fps on a single monitor at 1920x1200 so it isn't a huge deal. For others that extra little bit can make the games they play a lot more enjoyable. For me it's time to stop and enjoy the fruits of my labour.
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Yeah, definitely not a good chip to delid...not worth it imho.
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Yeah, definitely not a good chip to delid...not worth it imho.

is this for me ?
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To me there's more to delidding than just hitting 5.0GHz+. I've seen guys spend several hundred dollars on custom loops just to shave 10C-20C off their load temps. This mod will cost about $20 and net you a 15C temp drop on average. That's why I delid, I've had two crappy chips, but they run really cool.
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To me there's more to delidding than just hitting 5.0GHz+. I've seen guys spend several hundred dollars on custom loops just to shave 10C-20C off their load temps. This mod will cost about $20 and net you a 15C temp drop on average. That's why I delid, I've had two crappy chips, but they run really cool.

this mod could cost you $350 though...lol tongue.gif
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I've spent several hundred dollars indeed ! wheee.gif
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I still don't understand how I could gain some mhz after delidd ? Can someone explain ? redface.gif
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To me there's more to delidding than just hitting 5.0GHz+. I've seen guys spend several hundred dollars on custom loops just to shave 10C-20C off their load temps. This mod will cost about $20 and net you a 15C temp drop on average. That's why I delid, I've had two crappy chips, but they run really cool.

My water system is somewhere north of 2000$ lol
    
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My water system is somewhere north of 2000$ lol

You're a wildman!
My cascade, 2 x single stages, & water loop were less than that combined. Gotta admit my rigs look nowhere near as nice as yours though.
    
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this mod could cost you $350 though...lol tongue.gif
LOL
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I still don't understand how I could gain some mhz after delidd ? Can someone explain ? redface.gif
Well because you are going to drastically reduce the temp of your chip. Therefore you can add more voltage and go for higher overclocks. Since your temps are no longer a limiting factor you can get higher speeds. Now the problem is, people are saying your chip isn't worth delidding. And what they mean is to get a gain on speed, you will likely have to put your voltage well over 1.5v, since nobody knows the maximum safe voltage for Ivy, and these voltages have been known to degrade previous 1155 chips and 775 chips, voltages in excess of 1.55v are avoided with Ivy. Some people don't really care, others do.
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My water system is somewhere north of 2000$ lol

Yeah dude but yours is ballin', you basically run ambient temp, LOL
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