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idk if i import it maybe it will get lost in the way i live faaaaaaarrrr away from those nice cute little liquid pro filled syringes redface.gif

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I was surprised how cheap shipping was directly from the Coollabs online store. Just ordered two more syringes of CLU and shipping was less than EUR6 to Australia, and arrived within 2 weeks.
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As I slowly read through the increasing number of the new posts, more and more cant I believe Ive successfully delidded my cpu. I bought it only month ago. And when I was cutting through the top of the IHS, I applied too much pressure and went through like if it was a butter. In that moment I thought I killed my chip. Who knows what stopped my hand, but it wasnt me and as I discovered when I took off the IHS, it wasnt the Die either. But it definitely sounded like I chipped half of the Die. It was kinda hard as all of the corners were too tight. When I was doing it I was listening to the video guide posted on the first side. I dont want to do anything like this ever again biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by kesawi View Post

I was surprised how cheap shipping was directly from the Coollabs online store. Just ordered two more syringes of CLU and shipping was less than EUR6 to Australia, and arrived within 2 weeks.

...same here to Canada...6 tubes of CL (-U and -P) took a bit longer than two weeks but the actual process with PayPal credit card etc was very smooth...placing an order and paying for it took about 5 min smile.gif
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A lot of fresh fish in the Delidded Thread lately, I like it. Happy Delidding!
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Congrats to everyone who has successfully delidded recently! Its not an aesy thing to achieve. Especially the first time!
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Which is the best way to quickly find an error on an unstable OC?
Also, what is the average voltage needed for 4.5GHz?
Thank you.
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Which is the best way to quickly find an error on an unstable OC?
Also, what is the average voltage needed for 4.5GHz?
Thank you.
We don't have enough accurate data to state a mean or mode, but I think most would agree that around 1.25v is a reasonable estimate of the median.

I run Prime95 torture test, custom, change it to 8k by 8k, and memory to 90% of available. Have event viewer up to look for any WHEA warnings. If it can go 15 minutes then go down voltage until it can't pass, then notch it back up and do a regular longer test.
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Nice job Belial, temp drop looks good.
34 hours of Prime95 with almost 1.5v. If you run that voltage 24/7 and do Prime95 24+ hours test every now and again to check stability over time, you should be able to figure out if that degrades an Ivy chip or not.

I hope it doesn't, but there are those people that believe 24 hours of Prime is terrible for your chip at any time, and others that think 1.5v 24/7 will degrade it also. If you are doing both and don't get noticeable degradation then you will be able to prove Ivy is a lot stronger than they think.

Thanks.

I do a lot of streaming which is basically running your cpu at 100% for hours on end (which is why stability is important to me, but i dont have important data so if i had to wipe my drive i wouldnt think twice).

People might say 1.5v is much but that is because they are worried about temps. There have been zero reports of degradation on ivy bridge with people doing up to 1.5-1.6v. if one of those guys comes here and says they got degradation at 1.499v, maybe I'll consider stepping it back but I seriously doubt it.

I don't really see 1.499v as very extreme either. I'd say it's definitely the max on what most people consider a limit, 1.5v, ha, but really i'm pretty sure 1.5-1.6v is fine. Obviously no one knows for sure but so far people are doing so good on 1.5-1.6v, so i dont think there's any logical reason to believe 1.5-1.6v is dangerous. Now temps can be a problem, but I'm keeping quite toasy so the main concern is not there for me (i'm definitely not running cold on p95, but it's not too hot).
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today I successfully delidded my 3570k and I used MX-2 on DIE, until Liquid Pro/Ultra arrives. I have a lapped IHS and I am using Noctua NH-D14 and my question is, can I use Liquid Pro/Ultra on lapped IHS and if yes, would there be some problems when I would want to take the cooler off after some time ? Same question applies if I use it on DIE.

There is no problem. CLU comes off just fine, you might need to use the supplied soft-scrubber, or metal polish, if it's been there for a while but it's really not difficult or permanent.
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Now I can do 5.0 at 1.41v and max core temps of 72, 76, 74, 72 with Prime95 and an off the shelf cooler.

Have you run a custom blend prime95 and made sure you have no Kernel-WHEA or WHEALOGGER errors? Because if you can really do 5ghz at 24hours+ p95 with no errors of any kind, that would mean you have an absolutely golden chip. I have a hard time belieiving you are really stable at that voltage...

I mean I can do 5ghz@1.4v, and I can even pass multiple hours of prime95. However I'll get tons of whea errors and I'll fail before 24 hours.

Also it's a lot easier to do that on Extreme LLC... because Extreme LLC feeds a ton of extra voltage (and heat) to your chip, but on software it looks like you are using a lower vcore, but in reality (which you can measure with a DMM), it's way more.

Like my 5ghz overclock, was stable on:
+.34 Offset High LLC (DMM = 1.51v)
+.285 Offset Turbo LLC (DMM = 1.499v)
+.265 Offset Extreme LLC (DMM = 1.53v)

High didn't increase voltage much but I needed a really high voltage to be stable on high. Extreme added a ton of extra heat, and even though my CPU-Z said I was stable at like 1.48v, in reality I was at 1.53v.
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Would it be okay to put some painters tpe on the bottom of thechip for esie handling.

There would be nothing wrong with that, and I'd say it's a great idea if it wasn't for the fact that there's no reason for you to do that in the first place. Well maybe, dont want static to go through the contacts on the bottom... but just discharge yourself before touching cpu, don't work on a carpet, don't wear socks... i mean even all that should really be fine, just dont be stupid.
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How do I use event viewer? Is that going to show errors that p95 isn't going to show me?
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Have you run a custom blend prime95 and made sure you have no Kernel-WHEA or WHEALOGGER errors? Because if you can really do 5ghz at 24hours+ p95 with no errors of any kind, that would mean you have an absolutely golden chip. I have a hard time belieiving you are really stable at that voltage...
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Actually I don't think it is all that good, there are others who can do 5.0 at under 1.4v. It is stable at 4.8 with under 1.3v. I am at the wall though, I haven't tried too hard but it looks like 5.1 would be at least 1.5v. Like you I am very picky about stability. I switched some stuff around so I am test testing my good chip for the second time. Prime95, torture test, custom, change only the memory used to 90%. I always have the event view up to check for anything that pops up while testing.

My voltage in manual is 1.41, I am testing offset now, so with rounding and such it results in a vCore of 1.41 to 1.424 in Hardware Monitor. My digital multimeter reads 1.414. I don't think it is Prim95 24 hour stable, I know it is. As for more than that, I have not had any instability in using the computer, but I haven't tried folding.
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