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Originally Posted by RavageTheEarth View Post

How do I use event viewer? Is that going to show errors that p95 isn't going to show me?
Click on the start button, type "event" click on Event Viewer. Then click Custom Views -> Administrative Events. If your computer is running properly there should be nothing occurring in there. There are many things that will pop up, especially when you are testing, but you should know why each Error or Warning comes up. It takes a lot of googling to find the reason for some of them.

With specific regard to overclocking, if you see any WHEA warnings event id 19 internal parity error, that means your overclock is unstable even if Prime95 is running fine. Usually just means you need more vCore.
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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

Click on the start button, type "event" click on Event Viewer. Then click Custom Views -> Administrative Events. If your computer is running properly there should be nothing occurring in there. There are many things that will pop up, especially when you are testing, but you should know why each Error or Warning comes up. It takes a lot of googling to find the reason for some of them.

With specific regard to overclocking, if you see any WHEA warnings event id 19 internal parity error, that means your overclock is unstable even if Prime95 is running fine. Usually just means you need more vCore.

Ok thanks! I'll start looking at that. I'm very picky about stability so I'm sure you just made my life a living hell hahaha
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im prime95 stable @ 5 ghz with 1.36v-1.38v, but i need 1.39v - 1.41v. to be completley whea error free. last time i hade a whea error was when crysis 3 came out. since i mostly got them from gaming Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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im prime95 stable @ 5 ghz with 1.36v-1.38v, but i need 1.39v - 1.41v. to be completley whea error free. last time i hade a whea error was when crysis 3 came out. since i mostly get them from gaming Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

thats sick, i cant even hit 4.9 at 1.5v on my SB, cant wait till i get my 3770k
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So just for the hell of it I tried booting at 5Ghz at 1.5v and I blue screened as it was going into windows:mad:

Now I just want to buy another chip I'm bummed. On the brighter side of things I've gotten my overclock of 4.6Ghz down to 1.28v and it is supposedly stable. I'll know for sure in the morning. Then I have my interview and hopefully my CLU will be at home when I get back.
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Nvm not stable at 1.28 I'm back up to 1.3v and testing that.
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So, I'm thermally limited, I believe, and am considering delidding.... right now I can do 4.5ghz with 1.18vcore, but going up my temps climb pretty fast. I need some encouragement to go for it and rip the top off....

If I do, is the consensus to use Liquid Pro between the IHS and die?
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So, I'm thermally limited, I believe, and am considering delidding.... right now I can do 4.5ghz with 1.18vcore, but going up my temps climb pretty fast. I need some encouragement to go for it and rip the top off....

If I do, is the consensus to use Liquid Pro between the IHS and die?

You should use liquid ultra because it is easier to spread and to take off.
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Actually I don't think it is all that good, there are others who can do 5.0 at under 1.4v. It is stable at 4.8 with under 1.3v. I am at the wall though, I haven't tried too hard but it looks like 5.1 would be at least 1.5v. Like you I am very picky about stability. I switched some stuff around so I am test testing my good chip for the second time. Prime95, torture test, custom, change only the memory used to 90%. I always have the event view up to check for anything that pops up while testing.

Yea but 5@1.4 or less is really, really rare, like you can count on one hand kinda thing... Nice chip then.
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Ok thanks! I'll start looking at that. I'm very picky about stability so I'm sure you just made my life a living hell hahaha

dont forget about kernel-whea errors too (event viewer->windows->kernelwhea
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So, I'm thermally limited, I believe, and am considering delidding.... right now I can do 4.5ghz with 1.18vcore, but going up my temps climb pretty fast. I need some encouragement to go for it and rip the top off....

If I do, is the consensus to use Liquid Pro between the IHS and die?

First off, Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra > Pro. Why would you get pro, someone did a test showing that Ultra and Pro are the same, slightly favored towards Ultra (within margin of error) but ultra is way easier to use and is way newer than Pro. Ultra is literally Pro version 2.0. Why would you use version 1.0 when 2.0 is out (dont say window 7 vs 8, 8 wasn't a big upgrade and frankly we should be using 8, just right now nothing utilizes it enough to really warrant changing to if you already got 7).

And to see how good your chip is and if it's worth delidding - boot at 1.3v. Then, use a software program to overclock your cpu - if you can hit 5ghz without crashing in 10 seconds, you got a decent chip. If you can do 5.1, it's an amazing chip (for reference, I have 5ghz@1.49v 34+ hours of prime95 stable, but I cannot get to 5.1ghz). If you can only do 4.6, 4.7, then it's a bad chip. 4.8 isn't really worth delidding unless you really want to, 4.9, sure.
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So, I'm thermally limited, I believe, and am considering delidding.... right now I can do 4.5ghz with 1.18vcore, but going up my temps climb pretty fast. I need some encouragement to go for it and rip the top off....

If I do, is the consensus to use Liquid Pro between the IHS and die?
I like ultra since it comes with brushes, and it is a little easier to handle. I am not sure anyone has shown conclusively which is better thermally between pro and ultra.

If 4.5 is really stable at 1.18 that is a good chip and probably worth delidding. If you have done your research, prepared yourself properly, and can afford a new chip should the worst happen, you should definitely do it. My second chip isn't even that good, but I delidded so I could go from 4.6 to 4.8 and measurably reduce my temps.
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