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Hey each to there own I guess. The important thing is to learn what works for you . I wish I had learned more before I got in to OC. I had not built a system in about 7 years till I got my SB i5 . I used AI Suite because I did not understand the bios to OC it and it did 5ghz . I then got an i7 and messed around with bios OC and all I could get was 4.7. I then got into water cooling and pushed it to 5 and was happy.

I only realised a few months ago that my first i5 was doing 5 ghz an a stock cooler with a software OC - I had no idea of the gem I had .
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I've read horror stories about guys putting CL pro beetween the CPU and the waterblock, many reported a weld beetween them when they tried to unmount the waterblock.

did someone here actually already tried to unmount his waterblock after having CL for several months ?

Did someone experienced that ?

I did it to the copper plate of a corsair H60 - i will tell you later this year about any welding. Frankly, this sounds just like the type of contact i would hope for. besides welds can be broken.
   
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Well, I just delidded my second 3770k and I've scratched the PCB in 3 places. You can see the copper. I've installed the CPU and everything seems to be working fine? Is there anything I can do to check if the CPU is really working as it should? I ran benchmarks and that seemed fine as well. Anything I could use to cover the small copper scratches?
Thank you.
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Well, I just delidded my second 3770k and I've scratched the PCB in 3 places. You can see the copper. I've installed the CPU and everything seems to be working fine? Is there anything I can do to check if the CPU is really working as it should? I ran benchmarks and that seemed fine as well. Anything I could use to cover the small copper scratches?
Thank you.

Well it seems to be good then. And I have heard of people using a 2 part epoxy to fill scratches
post #13755 of 33678
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I did it to the copper plate of a corsair H60 - i will tell you later this year about any welding. Frankly, this sounds just like the type of contact i would hope for. besides welds can be broken.
yes, but motherboars and sockets can ben broken too wink.gif

and people telling they had to use force and sharp plastic blades to separate them while beeing mouted on the motherboard doesn't seems nice.
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post #13756 of 33678
Here is my delided chip smile.gif



Liquid Pro arrives tomorrow morning so right after my classes, Im going to have 3 days off and squeeze this chip
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Originally Posted by invincible20xx View Post

i know what you mean but i don't think it's available here

there is the double sided one available but i want a blade that is NOT flexible !

It's better if it's flexible...You can make it into an U shape and fit the bent part onto one of the edges of the ihs. Much safer, you will avoid hitting the pcb 100% and open up one corner.
Then you can do the rest with a plastic card. That should be the number one method in the first page.
Fool proof...
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...I admire your courage, honestly....just under 1.6v scares me too much ! I'm thinking of getting a 3970X for a work-related application, and hear those can really fly with up to 1.6v

Then again, I have been lucky that I don't have to go there with my 3770K, though it is just a question of time when I feel tempted to go and bench at 5.4 (have benched up to 5.3 per earlier thread)

...my voltages at 100% load per AIDA 64 extreme stability test in Windows Resource Manager:

]

One thing, 3930/3960/3970x are SB architecture...SB degrades really easily over 1.45v, so no go.
You could only pull 1.6v on cold, and they won't go far, haven't seen any over 5.6ghz.
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Here is my delided chip smile.gif



Liquid Pro arrives tomorrow morning so right after my classes, Im going to have 3 days off and squeeze this chip

Nice! Good luck with the LP. have fun wink.gif
post #13758 of 33678
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Anyway, does a CPU need a break in or does it deliver full power out of the box ?

Cpus usually do their best right out of the box, checking max clocks with a new cpu after a couple hours it usually needs a bit more voltage or lower clocks. not much difference, but i usually think of that as the break in period (from new to where it needs the voltage bump, then it will stay the same for quite a while unless abused).
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..."heeding advice" ? Interesting choice of words that says quite a lot...

SOME parts of AI Suite are very good for oc'ing, never mind that Asus knows more than most about Asus boards' bios, and AI Suite does directly hook into the Bios (which is not always a good thing). That said, I have oc'ed via Bios, via Asus Suite and via XTU, with the latter being my 1st choice. Still, I find AI Suite can be a great tool as long as you know what you are doing, and I have used it before during several verified world record runs at HWBot.

XTU is more encompassing re a variety of unseen parameters and also less aggressive than AI Suite re vCore etc - but if a OCN member wants to use AI Suite instead of "...heeding your and others' advice" here, that's his or her business...there is a lot of stuff being spouted around here by a few 'individuals who really do not have decades of experience - advice that is actually nonsensical, not 'the last word in wisdom'

I don't like having AI suite installed on a rig, but it does come in handy for testing & can be handy for benching as well.
When testing it is faster to just up the clock or voltage in AI suite & see if it helps, rather than the reboot every time. Once you know the chip, it can be done in bios.
When benching you hit limits of where it wants to be able to load windows, when it crashes loading windows, it can be easier to drop a multi, boot up & then clock it back up on the desktop.

But something about AI suite just bugs me, msi & gigabyte software seems less invasive, you can just shut it off & it isn't there. AI suite likes to hang out in the background even when you don't want it to...
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Well, I just delidded my second 3770k and I've scratched the PCB in 3 places. You can see the copper. I've installed the CPU and everything seems to be working fine? Is there anything I can do to check if the CPU is really working as it should? I ran benchmarks and that seemed fine as well. Anything I could use to cover the small copper scratches?
Thank you.

I usually use clear nail polish or liquid electric tape to insulate. With a nicked PCB it should be done before ever trying to boot it though, you can short circuit a PCB all you want when it isn't powered, as long as there are no shorts when it gets powered up, all is good.
If the cpu PCB is nicked & something live can arc creating a short circuit, it's already to late. Insulate first so there can be no short.
It's like washing a motherboard or gpu in the sink, as long as it dries completely before powering it up it's fine. Not dry, & it won't live long once powered.

Oh yeah, finally found a decent cpu for 3d, validated this & benches fine at 6.4Ghz.
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2729279


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ivan labrie what are you talking about?

invincible20xx, didn't you already mess up a delid using the wrong blade? lachen.gif
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..."heeding advice" ? Interesting choice of words that says quite a lot...

SOME parts of AI Suite are very good for oc'ing, never mind that Asus knows more than most about Asus boards' bios, and AI Suite does directly hook into the Bios (which is not always a good thing). That said, I have oc'ed via Bios, via Asus Suite and via XTU, with the latter being my 1st choice. Still, I find AI Suite can be a great tool as long as you know what you are doing, and I have used it before during several verified world record runs at HWBot.

XTU is more encompassing re a variety of unseen parameters and also less aggressive than AI Suite re vCore etc - but if a OCN member wants to use AI Suite instead of "...heeding your and others' advice" here, that's his or her business...there is a lot of stuff being spouted around here by a few 'individuals who really do not have decades of experience - advice that is actually nonsensical, not 'the last word in wisdom'

I was not referring to using AI Suite to test an overclock or to tweak things for benching, I was pointing out that his BCLK is 104.2 which is what usually happens when you use TurboEVO to auto set an overclock. You apparently think that Asus knows so much about their boards that bios is stupid, and us spending time to manually set it up, and test all the settings is pointless. Sure let's just delete all the guides here and everyone just use TurboEVO to magically and automatically find our perfect overclocks for 24/7 stability. Thanks, what I great idea, I sure am stupid. Thanks for pointing out how stupid and inexperienced I am.

I have only been here a few months, but that was by far the most condescending post I have read. Wow, you worked in your HWBot again, what is that 25 posts now?
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