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I have to wonder about some of the sentiment being thrown around here.

Hardware has really come a long, long way, as well as software. I really wonder if software overclocking is as bad as it is made out to be anymore. Nowadays boards are basically sold on how good the included overclocking suite is, every single person at tomshardware buys their boards based on the software, and TH's reviews of motherboards ranks a board's ability to overclock not on it's VRM, but based on how far of a software overclock you can get (even if voltages are reported inaccurately 100% of the time on all motherboards no matter the brand and quality, and you can often use some motherboard oc programs on other boards).

I think it's a valid question to ask these days, if software overclocking really is that bad. I mean people still say you should disable all powersaving options or that you should never go above 1.575 ram voltage on sandy bridge and ivy bridge, liquid pro being better than ultra, there's TONS of myths that are perpetuated because what used to be true or based off some mythical intel spreadsheet that never existed. Remember the 'max voltage for ivy is 1.52v", haha.

However software doesnt have offset voltage, and not nearly as much control like I still can't change LLC in software or pwm switch rate, and I dont want to have to set my overclock every single time i log back into windows... maybe software does suck if it doesnt even have those basics covered but I don't think it's right to just say all software sucks without question still. Motherboard manufacturers spend a ton of money and time into their overclocking software. It could definitely just be markinet bullcrap but I'm sure that is less and less true as time goes on.
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....problems with the facts, I guess. I have never, ever advised anyone on setting 'auto overclocks', and I feel I have done a lot to show folks the benefits on Intel's own XTU, including stability tests - the very same the professionals use. Good luck...

I think you showed people like me that XTU might be better but nothing concrete. I haven't heard any reports, like someone saying "well i passed 24 hours of prime95 but failed in 5 hours of xtu' or any sort of comparison of the two, like 'well i know for sure i fail prime95 at .05v less than my current voltage but xtu passes just fine'.
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Ok, I asked if I should delid, and was told to attempt booting at 5ghz. I set the a 50 multiplier, turned off turbo offest, kept PLL overvoltage disabled, and set vcore to fixed at 1.35v.

It booted, to my surprise. Had a few WHEA erros upon booting, one program refused to start, but I confirmed with CPU-Z, saw 1.36v, and passed superpi 1M. Is this a candidate for delidding?

I told you what to do to see how good your chip is already. Boot at 1.3v, see how far you can overclock in windows with a software program. 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, until it freezes on you (just not freezing for 10 seconds so you can select the next overclock is all you need to do). If you can do 5ghz without freezing within 10 seconds then you got a good chip worth delidding.
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I'm so blown away that my board is reporting .1v off. So that means I have the worst luck with chips EVER. My last chip, a 3570k, needed 1.391v for 4.5Ghz so in reality it really needed 1.491v. My new 3770k which I thought was decent needs 1.371v for 4.7Ghz so in reality it needs 1.471v. What the hell....

oh man the freakin sillicon lottery....redface.gif

don't sweat it try 4.6GHz @ 1.35 if it goes then just keep it there

i delidded my cpu but i nicked it at one place it's still working but i'm looking for something to apply on the nicked area just to insulate it from the IHS
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clear nail polish

will it endure the heat produced in that area by the processor ?

also i can't seem to get the intel adhesive off of it i'm afraid to nick the pcb again while trying to get it off, is it really necessary to remove the old adhesive ? what will happen if i don't remove it and just slap the IHS on the processor ?

also if i have to remove it, what is the best way to go about it ?
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what are your temps like?

Was kinda worried about stability, so I rushed, plus a friend is waiting to game, so I didn't have much time to fiddle. Since I wasn't doing anything more than SuperPI, I don't think I was seeing crazy temps, since my fans didn't even ramp up.

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DAM...nice chip, you even have pll overvoltage disabled, that's nuts! tongue.gif You normally need that enabled for higher clocks, wonder how far it'll go with 1.5v and pll on.
Delid that sucker right away mate wink.gif

Might need PLL for stability, who knows, but it was pretty crazy to see 5000mhz in CPU-Z! I'll order some Coollaboratory tim and give it a shot. Now I have to decide on Pro or Ultra.........
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Ivan, SHHHH.

Dude, that chip isn't a keeper, should be sold to some poor sucker like me as soon as possible... biggrin.gif


Sounds like a great chip man! But if you do want to sell it before delidding can I get dibs?

Ha! I'll keep you in mind wink.gif

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I told you what to do to see how good your chip is already. Boot at 1.3v, see how far you can overclock in windows with a software program. 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, until it freezes on you (just not freezing for 10 seconds so you can select the next overclock is all you need to do). If you can do 5ghz without freezing within 10 seconds then you got a good chip worth delidding.

Well, since I know it's stable at 4.6ghz, I figured just go for the gold. It booted with 1.36v at 5.0ghz, ran SuperPI 1M, no BSOD. Including the boot process, it was at 5.0ghz for probably 3-4 min.
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oh man the freakin sillicon lottery....redface.gif

don't sweat it try 4.6GHz @ 1.35 if it goes then just keep it there

i delidded my cpu but i nicked it at one place it's still working but i'm looking for something to apply on the nicked area just to insulate it from the IHS

Wow man you are so lucky bro. Thank god you didn't kill it and remember that if you ever get liquid ultra that it is conductive so just be really careful with it.
The thing that sucks is that even when my MOBO is pumping 1.48v (real volts) into my cpu temps never go over 70c with the new CLU. They mostly stay in the 50's though. If only I could get it at a decent clock for voltage. I wish there was a way to do a fonzie style jukebox hit to the chip and make it take less volts. I think I'm going to go to microcenter in a month or two and buy another chip.
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i used clear nail polish on a gtx 260 to get rid of coil whine i think they get hot and that card is still alive and kicking.
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i used clear nail polish on a gtx 260 to get rid of coil whine i think they get hot and that card is still alive and kicking.

do you recomment putting the nail polish on the pcb or the IHS in the area that will likely fall on the nicked place ?
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Ivan, SHHHH.

Dude, that chip isn't a keeper, should be sold to some poor sucker like me as soon as possible... biggrin.gif

Sounds like a great chip man! But if you do want to sell it before delidding can I get dibs?

LOL!!
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I'm so blown away that my board is reporting .1v off. So that means I have the worst luck with chips EVER. My last chip, a 3570k, needed 1.391v for 4.5Ghz so in reality it really needed 1.491v. My new 3770k which I thought was decent needs 1.371v for 4.7Ghz so in reality it needs 1.471v. What the hell....
Ah, it ain't so bad man. It's still a good CPU, it's a 3770K. Go run some benches against the guys in the Vishera thread, it will cheer you up. thumb.gif
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do you recomment putting the nail polish on the pcb or the IHS in the area that will likely fall on the nicked place ?

pcb where the nick is, that way you dont have to worry about shorting the cpu.
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Valgaur,
Thank for the thread, sorry for the trouble, but when you get a chance could you remove me from the club and delete my info from the first post?
Thanks.
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Samsung 840 Pro 512GB Pioneer BD-RW Swiftech H220 Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit 
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i7-3770k 5.0 24/7 Maximus V Formula EVGA GTX 690 G.Skill Trident X 2400 (2x8gb) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 Pro 512GB Pioneer BD-RW Swiftech H220 Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit 
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2 x NEC 30" Logitech G15 Corsair AX1200 NZXT Switch 810 
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