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Great job TonicX - 2 reps from me for the tests.
The reason one would go beyond that for BCLK is simple: You would want more for the PCI-E slots - although CPU might not increase, GPU might do indeed.
Regardless, as I would have thought, pointless going over unless you are going to bench.

There are a few cases where bclk is helpful, mostly benching though. For cpu if it can't get to the next multi but you still want more, bclk does it. Same idea for fine tuning memory.
Sometimes when at high clocks reaching the next multi takes a huge voltage bump, upping the bclk can help it reach the same clock without as much voltage (it would still need the big voltage bump for stability, but at least it got to the desktop).
The main use for me is cold boot bugs using ivy, with cold enough temperatures, the machine will not post with bclk at 100, get the bclk at least 105 or higher, then it will post normally.

Higher bclk isn't always helpful, but it doesn't necessarily hurt anything either.
    
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There are a few cases where bclk is helpful, mostly benching though. For cpu if it can't get to the next multi but you still want more, bclk does it. Same idea for fine tuning memory.
Sometimes when at high clocks reaching the next multi takes a huge voltage bump, upping the bclk can help it reach the same clock without as much voltage (it would still need the big voltage bump for stability, but at least it got to the desktop).
The main use for me is cold boot bugs using ivy, with cold enough temperatures, the machine will not post with bclk at 100, get the bclk at least 105 or higher, then it will post normally.

Higher bclk isn't always helpful, but it doesn't necessarily hurt anything either.

what's the reasoning behind that out of interest?
Why does it not boot with BCLK at 100, and boots with 105?
I'm curious!
Love learning new things smile.gif!
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Great job TonicX - 2 reps from me for the tests.
The reason one would go beyond that for BCLK is simple: You would want more for the PCI-E slots - although CPU might not increase, GPU might do indeed.
Regardless, as I would have thought, pointless going over unless you are going to bench.
Yes, that's what I thought. When it gets down to it, we should up it when we CAN up it. Even extreme overclocking should be done with understanding of the principals and not reckless dial twisting, after-all the context of this particular study is stability during extreme stress. I am involved in this group forum because I don't want to senselessly or ignorantly destroy my expensive computer components. Knowledge is Power- quite literally in this arena. I see the draw of Overclocking for the sake of overclocking, as a hobby, and an end in itself. However, I am a Graphic Design Consultant and bought this chip to speed up my render-times. Found the chip has heat issues and jump on board the Delidding Ship like so many others before me.

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Hehe nice one man!
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what's the reasoning behind that out of interest?
Why does it not boot with BCLK at 100, and boots with 105?
I'm curious!
Love learning new things smile.gif!

Not really sure, it probably is the pci-e or clock gen frequencies (something affected by bclk) that helps. With 1366 they would hit a wall at about 220 bclk, only way to go higher was increasing the pci-e frequency, but I don't know just how things depend on each other. Extreme cooling can make things behave differently, mostly in a good way though.
Don't know what happened with sandy, they were just weird. Hard multi limit different for each chip & terrible cold boot bugs that nothing would fix. Ivy plays much nicer.
    
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Interesting - thanks for the info smile.gif
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delided my i5 3570k. Not a gr8 overclocker but i wanted to reduce the temps. Getting around 15 degree reduction in temps running prime.
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Using generic thermal compound that came with the air cooler. Plannig to buy cl pro but not available in my country so i have to order from uk or usa.
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delided my i5 3570k. Not a gr8 overclocker but i wanted to reduce the temps. Getting around 15 degree reduction in temps running prime.

15 degrees is exactly what mine drop. I had no problems with the Cool Laboratory Ultra which is basically Cool Laboratory Pro improved. you can order is here http://www.Performance-PCs.com
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That's ok smile.gif Just ran CPU test for 5 minutes as a quick check for problems since I only had limited time before going to work. Have left Prime95 running longer as I need a 12hr test for the Ivy Stable Club. I'm not sure what the exact WHEA errors were and will need to have a look at the event log entries when I get home tonight.

Have checked and I've had two sorts of WHEA errors:





The last few errors occurred just before Prime95 crashed.
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