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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

Liquid PRO users - a question - is there any issues in taking the IHS off of the die, or HSF off of the IHS, once the Liquid PRO is applied?
I know using Ultra that is is very easy to use and clean up and nothing sticks to nothing - all easy to remove and pull apart etc.
If I put PRO on my die though, will it make it hard to remove the IHS later?
ALSO, is it easy to remove the PRO from the die???
Thanks for feedback and responding! thumb.gif

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this might be helpful,
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?162440-Coollabs-Liquid-Pro-Investigated!-Easiest-possible-way-to-remove-included.-56k-warnin
i still have to try it myself, want to wait till it "hardens" some more,
if i ever need to take it apart again, i will write about it here,
but then im gonna use the cleaning set coollabs sells Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
, the one with the 3 bottles in it,
think theres enough to last for years in that set.
removing the ihs later should be no problem, of course, after 1 year usage, it will be a bit harder,
but remember when we delidded, it was not like when we cut through the black adhesive,
the IHS just fell off, i needed to twist it a bit, guess it will do the same with other tim's, over time,
i just read another thing, gallium has a low melting point? like if you putt some on your hand, the temp
is already enough to melt it, so heating the chip before remove might help too..
(hours later)funny, found this vid where a guy actually lets it melt in his hand,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aolRO9eteSk
use a hair dryer when you clean it? hot air..
will try find more info about it today, prolly not much info out there yet, using/cleaning it on the die etc..
read somewhere else you can re-use it, like hookies said, add some more instead of cleaning it, and apply a new layer..
i just finished contacting coollaboratory with these questions, so now have to wait for their response,
cant find that much info, except the remarks of peeps that its hard to remove,
about as many times as peeps saying its hard to apply or to work with ..lol
this, "preclean" might help, just let it soak in high alcohol based cleaner,
isopropyl alcohol, if possible above 90%
quote
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/thermal-interface-roundup_8.html
Although this is a fairly small syringe, it should last you for at least 5 cooler installations provided you apply the compound the right way.
The application procedure is very simple, just squeeze a small drop into the center of degreased processor heat-spreader
and spread it evenly with a cotton ball or soft cloth over the entire surface. Besides, I would also recommend doing the same thing to the cooler base:

When both surfaces have been prepped like that and run through several heating/cooling cycles,
they get a better “grip” than in case thermal interface has been only applied to one of them.

Now that they included rough porous pad for compound removal (I don’t know its exact name),
it has become a very easy to remove Liquid Pro from the surfaces.
It will take you less than a minute to clean it off, although you will have to forget about nice polishing.
Remember, Liquid Pro shouldn’t be used with aluminum surfaces.
The manufacturer promises thermal conductivity of 82 W/(m·K).
Liquid pro should remain fully functional at operational temperatures between -273°C and +1200°C.
If it is true, it is truly impressive, but I doubt that anyone needs such a wide temperature range.
and quote
see, it confirms what i already figured, when using it on all sides, also inside IHS, and on Die,
just a sidenote tho ..lol
"official" coollabsresponse to a question about removing it on youtube,
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=qFhbqiFh9Us
The Liquid Pro can be wiped off, residues which are hardend can be removed with metal polish.
Small residues can stay on the surface and will possibly upgrade the performance of other pastes.
Coollaboratory in reply to daniellikahong (Show the comment) 4 months ago
now i wonder what metal polish will do to the die, will it scratch?
Yes, the Liquid Pro is also usable on GPUs.
But it is possible that there is a bigger gap between the contact surfaces, for that we would rather recommend the Liquid Ultra.
Coollaboratory in reply to ZTOID (Show the comment) 4 months ago
interesting remark..
The content of the Liquid Pro syringe is enough for 10 to 15 CPUs, depends on the amount you apply on the surfaces.
You just need a really small amount, as you see in the video.
10 To 15 cpu's?. That also counts for liquid ultra?
kledder2 in reply to Coollaboratory (Show the comment) 1 year ago
No the Liqud Ultra is pasty and you will need some more of it the get a smooth contact surface.
We recommend to use 3 or 4 scale lines, therefore the amount is enough for approx. 5 cpu size surfaces.
The exact amount depends on the size of Heatspreader, on the evenness of the contact areas and the thickness of the gap.
well, im done info looting for today ...LOL, this post is (to) getting long again wink.gif

Thanks for the info VonDutch. I have some PRO on order that I am going to compare to the Ultra. Concerned that once going forward there would be no way back!
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its Hong Kong..
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its Hong Kong..

Huh wut?! Ive been to Hong Kong... China's Vegas place is lit up like a Christmas tree really cool place to fly into at night.
    
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Has anyone had any success with alternative delidding techniques? Eg: plastic card, dental floss, thread?

What about slightly heating the edge up with a soldering iron?

Hmm, if the soldering iron is not too hot, but hot enough to unbind the glue/sealant, it might be 'easy' as desoldering a QFP chip biggrin.gif
Edited by leppie - 10/23/12 at 9:51am
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Huh wut?! Ive been to Hong Kong... China's Vegas place is lit up like a Christmas tree really cool place to fly into at night.


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Thanks for the info VonDutch. I have some PRO on order that I am going to compare to the Ultra. Concerned that once going forward there would be no way back!

oki, still thinking and looking into brasso,
went shopping today and look for it,

they have silver polish too, i just thought of something,
to use it on glass first, and look how much it would scratch,
saw another product like it, 2 in 1 solution, and on the side it said, you could use it on glass too,
if i have money, ill buy some, and try it on the window....from the neighbours that is ...LOL..shht..

there is a grinding pad, cleaning tissues in the Liquid Pro package,
problem is, will the grinding pad, after using the cleaning tissue,
incase the cleaning is worst case scenario,
do the job getting the leftover residues off without scratching the Die?

then theres the, "Small residues can stay on the surface and will possibly upgrade the performance of other pastes."
Edited by VonDutch - 10/23/12 at 10:14am
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Ordering my Liquid Pro today and going to get some sand paper as well! I want my 50 bucks from my folding win to come in so I can think of other things to buy.........
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Has anyone had any success with alternative delidding techniques? Eg: plastic card, dental floss, thread?
What about slightly heating the edge up with a soldering iron?
Hmm, if the soldering iron is not too hot, but hot enough to unbind the glue/sealant, it might be 'easy' as desoldering a QFP chip biggrin.gif

we talked about different ways if delidding, i came up with a thin card, plastic,
someone else mentioned dentalfloss.. but were still looking for someone to
do so, its not like we have 10 peeps a day doing delid ...lol
but euhm ...you still need to de-lid? ...just asking wink.gif

my mum use to have some black thread, that was very strong,
i was just looking at this,

its waxed black thread, they use it to fasten buttons etc..very strong.
and thin/sharp enough to cut through the black adhesive, and can go between the IHS and pcb easily i think,
and i dont think it can harm the pcb..
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Ordering my Liquid Pro today and going to get some sand paper as well! I want my 50 bucks from my folding win to come in so I can think of other things to buy.........

50 bucks ..win? folding? ..tell tell..
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