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If I'm not using 3D, do I need to install that 3D component when you install the driver?
i always perform a clean install and install the 3d stuff also even thou i dont have 3D
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Anyone have a problem with their HDMI input on nvidia cards? Everytime I turn the monitor off and on while the computer is still on I have to unplug the HDMI cable and plug it back in otherwise the resolution is wrong or there is no display period. I think it's the current drivers and not the card because I have the same problem with a GeForce 210
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Great point me in the right direction .

GREAT !

...just go to http://www.hwbot.org and sign up (enthusiast league unless your computer room is full of phase change and LN2 gear)...I signed up with my OCN tag but obviously a different pw etc, and IMPORTANTLY, don't forget to choose overclock.net as your team as the points (boints) are both for yourself and the team you belong to.

...on the weekends, their web site can be VERY slow as a lot of folks are then on it and everything has to be updated

...under the 'benchmark' tag, choose where you want to compete (most competitions are for the video card class, i.e. 7970) and then also read the 'rules' as to what they want to see for verification when you submit a result for that benchmark

...here is the 7970 class...you'll see that it is by single card, SLI/CF, triples, and quads...see you at the other side thumb.gifbiggrin.gifthumb.gif

http://www.hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/radeon_hd_7970/
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Originally Posted by Swag View Post

If I'm not using 3D, do I need to install that 3D component when you install the driver?

...I tried it and for a beta, it is pretty good, though no performance gains or losses in the stuff I do...I understand that it is mostly an update for the new 'Tomb raider'
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Wasn't planning on delidding for a while but I was bored this morning so why not biggrin.gif

My tools:


Delidding wasn't that hard, what had me most nervous was how close together the PCB and IHS were, I though I'd have a little more wiggle room for the blade. I powered through it and once everything was separated, it didn't look like there were any nicks.




Forgot to take any more pictures, but after that I cleaned up the thermal paste and used my fingernail to scratch off the adhesive. Then I used CLU on the die and the IHS. Everything booted up no problem, was sweating bullets when I pressed the power button. Early results are showing about 10 - 15C drops in temperature, time to get overclocking!
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So I have discovered, that the more voltage I put into cpu, the sooner it fails prime95 test. 4.7GHZ is stable at 1.25V and if I just for the sake of this test put 1.4V into it, it fails the test as soon as I click "begin the test". Ive also discovered that with 4.7GHZ@1.4V, it boots with memory set to xmp, but not when memory is at default. - Default memory is 1333MHZ@1.5V, xmp is 1666MHZ@1.65. If memory is set to default but 1.65V it boots again. This is tricky
Edited by Icydead - 3/16/13 at 2:27pm
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So I have discovered, that the more voltage I put into cpu, the sooner it will fail prime95 test. 4.7GHZ is stable at 1.25V and if I just for the sake of this test put 1.4V into it, it will fail the test as soon as I click "begin the test". Ive also discovered that with 4.7GHZ@1.4V, it will boot with memory set to xmp, but not when memory is at default. - Default memory is 1333MHZ@1.5V, xmp is 1666MHZ@1.65. If memory is set to default but 1.65V it will boot again. This is tricky
If I went higher than 1.3vcore, I would also fail prime95. The higher the voltage, the quicker I would fail. This is the 3rd case I've seen now in the space of 2 weeks. There has been one thing in common. The CPU's have been delidded.
IB is more trouble than what it is worth so I decided to get shut.
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If I went higher than 1.3vcore, I would also fail prime95. The higher the voltage, the quicker I would fail. This is the 3rd case I've seen now in the space of 2 weeks. There has been one thing in common. The CPU's have been delidded.
IB is more trouble than what it is worth so I decided to get shut.

You think it has something to do with delidding ? Thats weird
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Guys whats up with this ? Im trying 4.8GHZ, and when I put for example 1.27V, it lasts 20 minutes in prime95 blend test until prime itself crash. So I increase voltage to for example 1.35V, and it throws bsod after few seconds in prime. So i put 1.4V and it fails immediately in prime. The more voltage, the sooner it fails?

Ivy can be tricky, I've seen this with high overclocks when benching. I have to get the voltage just right, bit too little = unstable, bit too much = unstable, have to find the right spot in the middle & then it works. Older chips weren't as picky, too much voltage may not be as good for the chip, but it worked.
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Should I enable PLL overvoltage in my BIOS? I have had it disabled the whole time I have been OC'ing and I sometimes get a crash of P95 itself where the program has to close.

I've always left it on auto, I haven't had any issues letting it enable or disable itself as needed whether at any clockspeed.
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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

i wonder if i had a phase changer. id be at 6ghz chillen biggrin.gif like FTW420
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...and you would be wondering how to get to 6.2 GHz biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif ...just like FtW 420, when he decides that the phase changer has to vacate in favour of LN2 thumb.gif

...that's why it is a billion dollar industry we feed tongue.gif

It's a vicious cycle. Air is fun until you try water, then you try phase & every ivy bridge chip can suddenly boot 5Ghz at 1.3V, but there are still limits to what it can do under load. Colder phase, then DICE, then ln2....
Liquid helium is like 10x the cost of ln2 & much harder to work with, but I want to try it...
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Originally Posted by martinhal View Post

Great point me in the right direction .
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joa3d43 View Post

GREAT !

...just go to http://www.hwbot.org and sign up (enthusiast league unless your computer room is full of phase change and LN2 gear)...I signed up with my OCN tag but obviously a different pw etc, and IMPORTANTLY, don't forget to choose overclock.net as your team as the points (boints) are both for yourself and the team you belong to.

...on the weekends, their web site can be VERY slow as a lot of folks are then on it and everything has to be updated

...under the 'benchmark' tag, choose where you want to compete (most competitions are for the video card class, i.e. 7970) and then also read the 'rules' as to what they want to see for verification when you submit a result for that benchmark

...here is the 7970 class...you'll see that it is by single card, SLI/CF, triples, and quads...see you at the other side thumb.gifbiggrin.gifthumb.gif

http://www.hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/radeon_hd_7970/

People do automatically start off in enthusiast & need photos with submissions to show the cooling. Just have to make sure not to accidentally select the wrong cooling when submitting, selecting a sub-zero form of cooling (easy to make a mistake in the drop down menus) automatically bumps the user to the extreme OC league.
In the benchmarks section at OCN there is an hwbot team section with some guides & tweaking threads, feel free to post for any help with the benchmarks or tweaks.

Good luck!
    
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Wasn't planning on delidding for a while but I was bored this morning so why not biggrin.gif

My tools: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Delidding wasn't that hard, what had me most nervous was how close together the PCB and IHS were, I though I'd have a little more wiggle room for the blade. I powered through it and once everything was separated, it didn't look like there were any nicks. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Forgot to take any more pictures, but after that I cleaned up the thermal paste and used my fingernail to scratch off the adhesive. Then I used CLU on the die and the IHS. Everything booted up no problem, was sweating bullets when I pressed the power button. Early results are showing about 10 - 15C drops in temperature, time to get overclocking!

Very nice job! hurry up and give me your submission!

I finally got word about my summer job and I got it! nice 10-12k im going to be investing in many things! about 1/3 or 1/2 in computer parts and my wooden build! gonna need it for all those 480 80mm rads lol tongue.gif oooh.... and loans... lots and lots of loans to pay off. mad.gif MOAR CPU's!!!!
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