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Well I haven't installed it all of the way, but I have just put everything together really quick and when installed as described in the manual the "female standoffs" come up from below and sit maybe 1/16 of an inch above the motherboard so when the standoffs are screwed in they easily move down and up so since the block is installed onto the standoffs the block itself easily moves down and up so I can see how if the motherboard was stood up in a case the top of the block could move forward off the CPU providing uneven cooling. The way I installed it the "female standoffs" were perfectly flush with the top of the motherboard and when the standoffs are screwed in there is absolutely no play at all.
Just a suggestion, but I don’t think you need any washers. I didn’t, no review I read needed them, or any videos I watched. I am not saying that is conclusive or anything, but I would call Corsair and confirm. The unit is specifically designed to be loose when you install the backplate, then the clamp around the pump will make it completely tight when you install it.

It is designed (like the H220 also) so that you can screw the pump down as far as you can. You just turn the screwdriver until it stops, no guessing how hard to tighten it. If you add washers you are altering that design, and I am guessing that you will have to adjust how hard you screw the pump down to avoid damage to the mobo.
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Just a suggestion, but I don’t think you need any washers. I didn’t, no review I read needed them, or any videos I watched. I am not saying that is conclusive or anything, but I would call Corsair and confirm. The unit is specifically designed to be loose when you install the backplate, then the clamp around the pump will make it completely tight when you install it.

It is designed (like the H220 also) so that you can screw the pump down as far as you can. You just turn the screwdriver until it stops, no guessing how hard to tighten it. If you add washers you are altering that design, and I am guessing that you will have to adjust how hard you screw the pump down to avoid damage to the mobo.

Oh yea that actually just made a lot of sense to me because when you tighten the screws it will pull the standoff up and pull the backplate tight against the back of the motherboard, right? Hmm, I guess the threads I was reading kind of polluting my thinking of how this was supposed to work.

This is where I got the idea:

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=113973'

Some of these people are saying that after assembling it, it is still loose, but if you have the MVF and you can 100% confirm that your block isn't the slightest bit loose I will trust you and take that washers off. I just don't know why they would assemble the product like that.

EDIT: Well I guess it makes sense. As long as it is completely snug against the CPU I will be happy.
Edited by RavageTheEarth - 3/24/13 at 9:55pm
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Oh yea that actually just made a lot of sense to me because when you tighten the screws it will pull the standoff up and pull the backplate tight against the back of the motherboard, right? Hmm, I guess the threads I was reading kind of polluting my thinking of how this was supposed to work.

This is where I got the idea:

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=113973'

Some of these people are saying that after assembling it, it is still loose, but if you have the MVF and you can 100% confirm that your block isn't the slightest bit loose I will trust you and take that washers off. I just don't know why they would assemble the product like that.

EDIT: Well I guess it makes sense. As long as it is completely snug against the CPU I will be happy.
The people in that thread were worried about loose backplates, and were told it was normal. Loose backplate is irrelevant, loose pump is a huge problem. I have the MVF not the MVE thus I am simply suggesting you call Corsair and confirm before using those washers. As long as you have extra TIM to test, it is pretty simple. Just install it without the washers first. If the pump is loose I am sure you will be able to tell. Corsair is little too big to just forget to put in washers. If you use the washers and tighten down all the way and the washers accidently put too much pressure where it should not go you could damage your mobo.
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Another quick question about the H100i and the fan connector cable that plugs into the 2 fans and into the block. Why is there 2 inputs for that cable on the block? Is that just so you can connect it neatly if it is coming from the left of the case or the right of the case? I know my H100i came with two of those cables. Am I supposed to use the other one for something?
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Oh yea man I didn't even know something like that existed and that is why I am waiting at least a year before blowing a chunk of change on a custom loop. I couldn't find anything by EK for the V Extreme, but I did find this from MIPS.
http://www.aquatuning.us/product_info.php/info/p15145_MIPS-ASUS-Maximus-5-Extreme-Fullcover-POM.html

...re your earlier question per PM, using 8x 16x 8x - or - 8x 8x 8x both work on my Max V Ex, though with little difference in performance. It comes down to getting enough space in-between to cool the cards (and your hands are tied with Quad SLI at 8x 16x 8x 8x anyhow which I sometimes run). Remember though that PCIe3 '8' is pretty much the same a PCIe2 '16', and unless you're going to run 4 overclocked Titan's, you are unlikely to get anywhere near close saturating the buses

...here is a pic of the EK waterblock's configurator for the Max V Ex, including board water-cooling

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

...here is a pic of my Max V Ex...I don't think that the VRM and PCH need water-cooling...I have measured no more than 45 C max even when hard-benching at 5.2 GHz+, confirmed by AI Suite sensors which also list that...it may come down to what kind of case you are using...you'll note the big 200 mm fan on top (there's another 200mm on the side window)

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Another quick question about the H100i and the fan connector cable that plugs into the 2 fans and into the block. Why is there 2 inputs for that cable on the block? Is that just so you can connect it neatly if it is coming from the left of the case or the right of the case? I know my H100i came with two of those cables. Am I supposed to use the other one for something?
If I understand you question correctly, the other fan header can be used with other splitter to control another two fans. So you can do push/pull if you get another two fans. Everything I have read says it will probably not be worth the trouble on this particular unit though.
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...re your earlier question per PM, using 8x 16x 8x - or - 8x 8x 8x both work on my Max V Ex, though with little difference in performance. It comes down to getting enough space in-between to cool the cards (and your hands are tied with Quad SLI at 8x 16x 8x 8x anyhow which I sometimes run). Remember though that PCIe3 '8' is pretty much the same a PCIe2 '16', and unless you're going to run 4 overclocked Titan's, you are unlikely to get anywhere near close saturating the buses

...here is a pic of the EK waterblock's configurator for the Max V Ex, including board water-cooling

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

...here is a pic of my Max V Ex...I don't think that the VRM and PCH need water-cooling...I have measured no more than 45 C max even when hard-benching at 5.2 GHz+, confirmed by AI Suite sensors which also list that...it may come down to what kind of case you are using...you'll note the big 200 mm fan on top (there's another 200mm on the side window)


What case is that? Just ordered my white Phantom 820 a couple hours ago.
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If I understand you question correctly, the other fan header can be used with other splitter to control another two fans. So you can do push/pull if you get another two fans. Everything I have read says it will probably not be worth the trouble on this particular unit though.

Oh ok good I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something and didn't have to use the other fan cable for something since there is two inputs on the block itself for two of those fan cables. Thanks! I'll try to install without any washers (except the ones that came with it).
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What case is that? Just ordered my white Phantom 820 a couple hours ago.

...irony of ironies tongue.gif - that case is a CM Storm Stryker, though the above assembly will be moved to a NZXT Phantom Full Tower case already standing here as I am building up a Rampage IV Ex / 3970x machine that in turn will be moved to the Stryker case - both boards are nearly identical in look and layout and the new system will inherit the w-c, hd, ssd and PSU setup already installed in the Stryker - sort of like 'hand-me-downs' among siblings biggrin.gif
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...irony of ironies tongue.gif - that case is a CM Storm Stryker, though the above assembly will be moved to a NZXT Phantom Full Tower case already standing here as I am building up a Rampage IV Ex / 3970x machine that in turn will be moved to the Stryker case - both boards are nearly identical in look and layout and the new system will inherit the w-c, hd, ssd and PSU setup already installed in the Stryker - sort of like 'hand-me-downs' among siblings biggrin.gif

Haha that is funny. What model Phantom is it?
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