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Update from me:

Plan A has switched from silver shim to the EK method....reduced height thumbnuts on my Koolance 380i (need to update sig). I will then have the block directly touching the die and attempt to use pressure from the waterblock to make pin contact. Will order from McMaster Carr tonight and have by Monday.

Won't bore everyone with specific numbers, but I've taken and used specific measurements to have decent certainty all my heights will be correct.


Reason for the switch? After doing a heat transfer simulation (fairly easy to use and free software too), believe it or not, a thinner shim made of silver will potentially be worse than a copper IHS, because the surface are would be smaller (negating the thinness and thermal conductivity advantages)
post #15172 of 33560
Ah, makes sense...good that it saved you like 95 bucks in the process...

Good luck! thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by dr/owned View Post

After doing a heat transfer simulation (fairly easy to use and free software too), believe it or not, a thinner shim made of silver will potentially be worse than a copper IHS, because the surface are would be smaller (negating the thinness and thermal conductivity advantages)


Hmm very interesting. I would have thought it would have been the other way around. Very interested to see how things go when you get it on monday. Be sure to take lots and lots of pictures biggrin.gif

We like pictures wink.gif
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Originally Posted by dr/owned View Post

After doing a heat transfer simulation (fairly easy to use and free software too), believe it or not, a thinner shim made of silver will potentially be worse than a copper IHS, because the surface are would be smaller (negating the thinness and thermal conductivity advantages)


Hmm very interesting. I would have thought it would have been the other way around. Very interested to see how things go when you get it on monday. Be sure to take lots and lots of pictures biggrin.gif

We like pictures wink.gif

For a super ghetto touchpad drawing of what the heat transfer lines look like, with an oversized surface area you get lines that curve towards the edges. With one that's equally sized you only get straight lines (and fewer lines total).



And the silver is already ordered...so that's plan B wink.gif Fortunately it's a precious metal so I can resell it at near market value no problem if I don't use it.
Edited by dr/owned - 3/28/13 at 8:32pm
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Originally Posted by dr/owned View Post

For a super ghetto touchpad drawing of what the heat transfer lines look like, with an oversized surface area you get lines that curve towards the edges. With one that's equally sized you only get straight lines (and fewer lines total).


Yea my mind was stuck on the thin-ness and conductivity and not surface area. That makes perfect sense!

Goodnight people. Back to work tomorrow!
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Just in case a nerd comes here off google at some point, here's the non-ghetto simulation. Notice T2 (the bottom configuration in the background) is cooling off much faster than T1.



So unfortunately for the guy above that has a crazy nice looking custom waterblock machined to precisely match the die dimensions...it's a non-optimal design smile.gif
Edited by dr/owned - 3/28/13 at 8:44pm
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Do any of you guys know if the 3570K will bottleneck the 680? Or 2x 680s?
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Do any of you guys know if the 3570K will bottleneck the 680? Or 2x 680s?

@4.8?

no way.

@ stock
1x680 no
2x680 probably.
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Do any of you guys know if the 3570K will bottleneck the 680? Or 2x 680s?

@4.8?

no way.

@ stock
1x680 no
2x680 probably.

Just wondering, seems a lot of people are saying otherwise but I trust the people here more. smile.gif
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Do any of you guys know if the 3570K will bottleneck the 680? Or 2x 680s?
no i dont think so, maybe 4 titans would cause a bottleneck tongue.gif
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