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post #15411 of 33692
Qs for FtW and IvanL

...per spoiler, did some more Unigine Heaven competition with 2x 670 cards and delidded 3770K earlier this evening (IMC seems to be working very fine biggrin.gif ), not least as Heaven seems to be slower with tri-SLI and quad-SLI

...adding the aforementioned 3970X Sandy-E, which has inherited the 3770K's original fast (quad set) TridentX...I have never worked on Sandy-E before (though have on Xeons, but with stock EEC RAM), especially re quad channel mem in the 'semi-crazy' Rampage IV Extreme board.

My plan is to use the exact-same settings as a starting point (ie mem 'v', timings etc), then try to do some more competitive runs, but with the 3970X (same vid cards)...what are the most fundamental differences between the Ivy and Sandy-E re memory setup, apart from the quad channels etc...Tx
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post #15412 of 33692
So, uhm, I totally just delidded. I was kind of bored and this chip was burnt by LN2 anyway, so if anything went wrong, I have my back up. I didnt read the guidelines before, but since I dont have my actual cooler yet... right now it is just ugly stock. And I only have MX4. Need to remount since IHS went on crooks. Just booted to make sure it still worked.



http://i.imgur.com/4fI4Ljp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tOQAunW.jpg


So far the idles have dropped below thirty, except for one core. That one is near 40 :/
post #15413 of 33692
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Originally Posted by MattyMatt View Post

So, uhm, I totally just delidded. I was kind of bored and this chip was burnt by LN2 anyway, so if anything went wrong, I have my back up. I didnt read the guidelines before, but since I dont have my actual cooler yet... right now it is just ugly stock. And I only have MX4. Need to remount since IHS went on crooks. Just booted to make sure it still worked.



http://i.imgur.com/4fI4Ljp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tOQAunW.jpg


So far the idles have dropped below thirty, except for one core. That one is near 40 :/

Woah man, I don't think I have ever seen a chip that was completely spotless of the black glue on the pcb. Usually it leaves a residue. How did you get it all off? REP to you for that!
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Credit card then rubbing with fingers. When I took this I had rubbed the left but not the right side.
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So, uhm, I totally just delidded. I was kind of bored and this chip was burnt by LN2 anyway, so if anything went wrong, I have my back up. I didnt read the guidelines before, but since I dont have my actual cooler yet... right now it is just ugly stock. And I only have MX4. Need to remount since IHS went on crooks. Just booted to make sure it still worked.

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iz9MgPDJcDn2u.jpg

Credit card then rubbing with fingers. When I took this I had rubbed the left but not the right side.

Congrats to both of you thumb.gifthumb.gif

...that looks a lot cleaner than when I did mine (it survived just fine, but there was blood biggrin.gif ) ...I kind of feel relieved that there is no sense in delidding Sandy-E's.... smile.gif
post #15416 of 33692
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Credit card then rubbing with fingers. When I took this I had rubbed the left but not the right side.

Damn I tried rubbing with my fingers after using the credit card and I couldn't get it to come off. I guess my fingers are too soft and sexy....

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Can you say... "Hand Model" ?????

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post #15417 of 33692
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Qs for FtW and IvanL

...per spoiler, did some more Unigine Heaven competition with 2x 670 cards and delidded 3770K earlier this evening (IMC seems to be working very fine biggrin.gif ), not least as Heaven seems to be slower with tri-SLI and quad-SLI

...adding the aforementioned 3970X Sandy-E, which has inherited the 3770K's original fast (quad set) TridentX...I have never worked on Sandy-E before (though have on Xeons, but with stock EEC RAM), especially re quad channel mem in the 'semi-crazy' Rampage IV Extreme board.

My plan is to use the exact-same settings as a starting point (ie mem 'v', timings etc), then try to do some more competitive runs, but with the 3970X (same vid cards)...what are the most fundamental differences between the Ivy and Sandy-E re memory setup, apart from the quad channels etc...Tx
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The timings & vdimm will pretty much be the same, x79 does use a bit different tertiaries & the tRCD doesn't like to tighten up as much as with ivy.
With c2 revision sb-e avoid going over 1.2V on the VTT, people have seen rapid degrading getting up around 1.25V.
    
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The timings & vdimm will pretty much be the same, x79 does use a bit different tertiaries & the tRCD doesn't like to tighten up as much as with ivy.
With c2 revision sb-e avoid going over 1.2V on the VTT, people have seen rapid degrading getting up around 1.25V.

...Thanks ! Don't even know what revision it is (latest 3970X, just arrived at the warehouse, will pick it up Tuesday)...I presume the VTT is automatically set by the Rampage board, as is the case with my Max V Ex / 3770K now ? I normally don't play with VTT, and the Max V Ex has VTTDDR v = 0.75 ...do people really push that to 1.2+ v ?
post #15419 of 33692
The r4e will have a cpu vtt voltage control, that is the one to not go too high with. There is also one called 2nd cpu vtt, but that can be left on auto.

Just have to watch early memory kit xmp profiles, some of them can set the vtt too high. It was fine with the c1 revision chips that quad channel memory launched with, but the c2 revision came out with the vt-d extension & those ones couldn't take as much vtt.
The 3970x will be c2.
    
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The r4e will have a cpu vtt voltage control, that is the one to not go too high with. There is also one called 2nd cpu vtt, but that can be left on auto.

Just have to watch early memory kit xmp profiles, some of them can set the vtt too high. It was fine with the c1 revision chips that quad channel memory launched with, but the c2 revision came out with the vt-d extension & those ones couldn't take as much vtt.
The 3970x will be c2.

Thanks ! The good news is that I know the transferred TridentX 32GB kit inside out...I'll watch for the R4E Bios / XMP settings it adopts, also vis-a-vis VTT rolleyes.gif
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