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Mr. Valgaur..per yesterday's and earlier posts, it would be great to get some MSI 680 Lightnings...now that I have a 2nd ROG, I need more GPUs ! I found 2 places in town that advertised the 680 Lightnings as 'in stock'...these are older, less busy shops with web sites that have not changed their look in years.. so there actually was a chance that they had some dusting away in the back...I drove up there earlier today, intending to buy 4-6 (and re-sell 2 to you at cost)...alas, 'no cigar' mad.gif - they did check with their suppliers but the word 'unavailable' was used a lot...I have one more serious lead and will let you know... smile.gif

He already has 680s he is looking for 7970 lightnings because they destroy 600 series when overclocked, plus the new drivers. It's nice because everyone like myself who has the cooling to overclock isn't voltage locked. 7970/7950s you can overclock like mad worrying more about cooling rather than voltage wall.
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So when you “delid” your gpu, CL Ultra is safe to use as long as you do it right, correct? Or would MX-4 be better for gpu dies?

Does color of water cooling tubing matter? As in all black not letting any light vs. a clear tubing?

Since you guys are experts and like the PrimoChill tubing, will I run into trouble using the XSPC High Flex tubing that several people have told me to use if want more flex?

Well it's more about performance if you do it wrong rather than safe. I got some on my pcb and nothing happened. I posted a page back on things you need to do carefully.

Color of tubing for what temperature reasons? Shouldn't matter everything is at ambient temperature. Yeah the color black absorbs heat faster but cools faster, but I doubt the difference is even measurable.

As for xspc tubing some say it is terrible, others say it decent, I think it might fog tho...
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So you're saying haswell > ivy-e? I don't think Intel would release ivy hexa cores 6 months after they release haswell if it performs better.

Re-read my post, I was talking strictly about benchmarking on ln2.
Ambient cooling at stock is all Intel cares about, and that's how the people who benefit from the extra threads for daily and pro work run their chips (mostly).
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So when you “delid” your gpu, CL Ultra is safe to use as long as you do it right, correct? Or would MX-4 be better for gpu dies?

Does color of water cooling tubing matter? As in all black not letting any light vs. a clear tubing?

Since you guys are experts and like the PrimoChill tubing, will I run into trouble using the XSPC High Flex tubing that several people have told me to use if want more flex?

Same behavior as cpu dies really...I didn't even check if my gtx 670 ftw's cooler was aluminum and just poured cl ultra on it. biggrin.gif
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He already has 680s he is looking for 7970 lightnings because they destroy 600 series when overclocked, plus the new drivers. It's nice because everyone like myself who has the cooling to overclock isn't voltage locked. 7970/7950s you can overclock like mad worrying more about cooling rather than voltage wall.

HEAVILY modded 680s can beat 7970s at Heaven, Vantage and 3dm11 (maybe Firestrike) but now with Titan out, there's no point unless you're a gamer or a green fanboi.
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Originally Posted by Arm3nian View Post

He already has 680s he is looking for 7970 lightnings because they destroy 600 series when overclocked, plus the new drivers. It's nice because everyone like myself who has the cooling to overclock isn't voltage locked. 7970/7950s you can overclock like mad worrying more about cooling rather than voltage wall.

...may be I misunderstood him when he wrote a couple of pages back that: "I am having a tough time finding the lightnings though...."

http://www.overclock.net/t/1313179/official-delidded-ivy-bridge-club/15670#post_19666444

...no matter - in a few months time, we'll all be reading about engineering samples of 700 / 8000 series GPUs anyways biggrin.gif
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So when you “delid” your gpu, CL Ultra is safe to use as long as you do it right, correct? Or would MX-4 be better for gpu dies?

Does color of water cooling tubing matter? As in all black not letting any light vs. a clear tubing?

Since you guys are experts and like the PrimoChill tubing, will I run into trouble using the XSPC High Flex tubing that several people have told me to use if want more flex?

Lots of issues with Cloudy build up reported with the XSPC stuff.
    
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Guys with android devices, get this: http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/02/3dmark-android-benchmark-now-on-google-play/

Check the play store, it's free biggrin.gif
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HEAVILY modded 680s can beat 7970s at Heaven, Vantage and 3dm11 (maybe Firestrike) but now with Titan out, there's no point unless you're a gamer or a green fanboi.

Heavily modded as in what? Increasing power target doesn't do that much, and the voltage still has a limit even though it's a bit higher. I already modded my 690 bios not much different than a 680 one. If you're talking about hardware modding maybe, but if you can do that on the 680 then you can also do that on 7970.

Also what does titan have to do with 7970?
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I guess he means Magic lol cause there is no way..... unless u got a heavy modded Gtx 680 with LN2 at 2000mhz/+1000 Mem lol.

Cause even Overclcoked 7950s beat over clocked 680s in those 9 times out of 10 lol.
    
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.....I didn't even check if my gtx 670 ftw's cooler was aluminum and just poured cl ultra on it. biggrin.gif
25c drops!
HEAVILY modded 680s can beat 7970s at Heaven, Vantage and 3dm11 (maybe Firestrike) but now with Titan out, there's no point unless you're a gamer or a green fanboi.

right you are...it makes little difference as there are many great cards by both NVidia and AMD...here is the current Heaven World record ranking...open class so that includes engineering samples, LN2 etc...as you know I compete in that (with tips from you and FtW on mem - tx again) and there are 7970ies and 680ies/690ies above and below...as I said, many great cards by several producers, both in the 'red' and the 'green team'... biggrin.gif

BTW, this all reminds me of wrestling with my cousin regularly as to which was better - BMW or Mercedes (what our dad's drove back in Europe)...then one day, our father's switched alliances - my dad bought a used Mercedes (Diesel) and my uncle a used BMW...there was about a week of peace....then my cousin and I started wrestling again, only on different sides than before biggrin.gif

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Heavily modded as in what? Increasing power target doesn't do that much, and the voltage still has a limit even though it's a bit higher. I already modded my 690 bios not much different than a 680 one. If you're talking about hardware modding maybe, but if you can do that on the 680 then you can also do that on 7970.

Also what does titan have to do with 7970?

http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1682
Again, Titan has to do with performance, I'm talking strictly about benchmarking. I'm not into gaming with uber high details, in fact my main rig is a pentium 4 631 atm, with intel hd graphics (soon to be a 6950 1gb) and that would be fine for my needs lol
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I guess he means Magic lol cause there is no way..... unless u got a heavy modded Gtx 680 with LN2 at 2000mhz/+1000 Mem lol.

Cause even Overclcoked 7950s beat over clocked 680s in those 9 times out of 10 lol.

Exactly...
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right you are...it makes little difference as there are many great cards by both NVidia and AMD...here is the current Heaven World record ranking...open class so that includes engineering samples, LN2 etc...as you know I compete in that (with tips from you and FtW on mem - tx again) and there are 7970ies and 680ies/690ies above and below...as I said, many great cards by several producers, both in the 'red' and the 'green team'... biggrin.gif

BTW, this all reminds me of wrestling with my cousin regularly as to which was better - BMW or Mercedes (what our dad's drove back in Europe)...then one day, our father's switched alliances - my dad bought a used Mercedes (Diesel) and my uncle a used BMW...there was about a week of peace....then my cousin and I started wrestling again, only on different sides than before biggrin.gif


Heaven xtreme is more of an AMD camp, basic yeah, greenish so to speak biggrin.gif
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