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Did I put too much CLU? The CLU I had was more watery. Most of the other CLU pictures I've seen looked dry and more textured.

I'm concerned about the extra dripping down into the socket area in my upright motherboard.
If that picture looks like what I think it looks like, it is too much. There can be a few little bubbles of it, but that pic looks like it was poured on, not painted on with a brush. Just a little on the brush, then paint the die, a tiny bit will spread and spread.
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If that picture looks like what I think it looks like, it is too much. There can be a few little bubbles of it, but that pic looks like it was poured on, not painted on with a brush. Just a little on the brush, then paint the die, a tiny bit will spread and spread.

it was painted on. my clu came out more watery.

i only used .25-.5 grain of rice.

i've been running now for 3 hours. im just gonna roll the dice and keep on running. temps are great now. if i pull it off and inspect i might not get the same great temps.
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it was painted on. my clu came out more watery.

i only used .25-.5 grain of rice.

i've been running now for 3 hours. im just gonna roll the dice and keep on running. temps are great now. if i pull it off and inspect i might not get the same great temps.
It is hard to tell from the pic, but if it is working well, don’t worry about it.

You are the first I have heard say that the clu was watery. Is that the only batch you have tried or do you have another to compare it to? I think I have gone through 3 or 4 syringes and they seemed pretty consistent, but I never use the syringe to apply it, I use it like a paint can to get it on the brush, then brush the surface.
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this is my first time using this stuff. of course i researched all the application methods and followed those.

i used the brush to move it around. i didn't "paint" it on because the bristles could flick specks of the metal. i just moved it around with the brush.

the extra that was on the brush was painted on the inside of the ihs.
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If that picture looks like what I think it looks like, it is too much. There can be a few little bubbles of it, but that pic looks like it was poured on, not painted on with a brush. Just a little on the brush, then paint the die, a tiny bit will spread and spread.

Exactly. I took a video, I'll see if I can upload it. You can take a a fraction of a pea and it will spread all over the die and then some. You just don't want it to look like there is any puddling.
 
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this is my first time using this stuff. of course i researched all the application methods and followed those.

i used the brush to move it around. i didn't "paint" it on because the bristles could flick specks of the metal. i just moved it around with the brush.

the extra that was on the brush was painted on the inside of the ihs.
You can feel free to paint it, when a little gets on the pcb it wipes up easily with a qtip and alcohol. You are correct though that if you are not careful the brush can flick the clu when you get to the edge of the die. I just do it slow and any that gets on the pcb I just wipe up immediately.

If your temps are good, then that is what matters. I have confirmed that you can definitely use too little as well. You can put a very, very thin layer on, but still completely cover it and get worse temps. It can take several attempts to get optimal temps from your chip. Based on the pics and how you describe the application, I think the majority here would say you used a little too much, but if your current temps are good, then don’t worry about it unless you really want to try again.
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Good! I think so too. That makes my day. I bet we could really come up with some innovative concepts. and the renders will be realistic enough to fool some into thinking they are real builds. I gotta sleep - but read my http://www.overclock.net/t/1372332/wood-case-designer-spitball (just one -page) and visit my site http://www.iversondigital.com and check-out ANIMATION page. we can talk about the first build design tomorrow. maybe we should get a virtual meeting account of some kind - I know they give em away free for new starters. just a thought. I will look for you when I get rolling on Saturday.

You got it lol tongue.gif

I'll take a shower first and then I'll try messing with that program... and see what I can do in it.... I've used blender before and this looks similar I just need to learn the controls tongue.gif

and holy crap sir...... you got some skills cheers.gif
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Looks good, like an nvidia fanboi's case biggrin.gif jk jk lol
I'm gonna say one thing: Paint or cover the psu logo. thumb.gif
Other than that, superb! biggrin.gif

Agree'd the PSU logo sticks out like a sore thumb. I wonder if it will look bad if I peel it off.
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Yes Mr. FTW is StOoPiD.

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I didn't call him stupid. Do you always put words in other people's mouths? Just thought perhaps he wasn't up and up on every feature the board has. I've bought two, so compared to someone who hasn't had one (unless he has bought one), I'd probably have a better idea of if something works well or not on the board. It also comes down to simple physics. Someone who says the thermal armour would make it worse just doesn't seem to get the idea. Do 2 40mm fans do a lot? No. But it doesn't have to if it's pushing air into a tight volume of space. If I have an open board just like any other board, it's exposed and air isn't going to run along it as well as if I were to cover it and force air underneath the cover, that same air that was before running around in open space, is now forced to only flow over the motherboard until it's expelled. Making it so air can't go anywhere else makes a channel of air that is much more efficient for getting rid of waste heat rather than something exposed. FTW was saying it would make it worse. Physics just doesn't agree with that. Now this doesn't help the cpu at all, just the surface temperature of the motherboard.
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Ok, don't take it so personal, man...was trying to help.
Your case looks pretty bad, like an early 90's AT box, with that cable mess.
That can't have good airflow, that's the thing. 80mm fans are noisy as heck and move little amount of air. No point having them around anymore, I'd personally ditch them. rolleyes.gif

Noisy as heck? That's why you put fans on controllers. Can't have good airflow? Yeah, why would something with 16 fans put off good airflow? You're judging the case's airflow based on a closeup shot of the motherboard I posted? That doesn't give you an idea of it's cooling ability at all. You're assuming a lot here from that one pic. Then you tell me that wires are all important and I should get rid of some of my fans? Yeah, that's really gonna help airflow, let's get rid of fans to help the airflow. 120's wont fit in the spot I put the 80 mm's and the 80's are electrical taped together so air can only move through the next fan. As you can see, this pulls air in, it's sucked up by the radiator or spit out the back. It's a straight shot right to the radiator The only place a lot of wires are is on the bottom and there are tons of fans there anyways. My system runs fine and puts off a lot of air. Maybe once I buy the final fans I settle with I'll do something about the wires, but until then I couldn't hardly care about anything so inconsequential. Anyways, sorry for getting heated, but it becomes kinda personal when someone insults my work, based on something so trivial like some wires, when they aren't even seeing a good photo of the whole case.


Along the top you have two tiny fan wires, two power cables that just reach and can not be routed and the coolant tubes to the H100i. The only mess of wires is on the very bottom, far away from the radiator.
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It doesn't look awesome, you can't even see the motherboard because of that horrendous mess of wires. Having a giant birds nest of wires in the middle of your case HURTS AIR FLOW. Having 17 fans does not make your airflow BOSS. Having 5 or 6 well placed fans with a wide open case would be superior to what you have there.

It's great to have pride in your setup. I think the rest of the guys in here would all agree that it needs some serious work.

The 400R has ton's of cable routing holes and a huge amount of space behind the motherboard for tucking wires.

Actually, I was talking about the looks of the Sabertooth Z77 in general when I said it makes it awesome. I really wasn't even talking about my specific setup. Even though yeah, I do think my tower looks great. But as I told the others, those wires are on the bottom, along the top there is almost no wires in the way, and a lot of those wires in that picture nothing can be done about. I know there's routing ports on the tower, but some aren't long enough to be routed but honestly, I don't have any issues with temperature with benchmarking so heat-wise it has no problem.

As for what would be superior, 6 fans vs 16, that's your opinion. Recognize it when you use it. Also, I can see the motherboard just fine. Perhaps see the new pics I put up that actually show you the rest of the case? There is a straight open tunnel of air from the front to the back feeding the radiator with air. I'll mess with the wires a little bit but honestly I have like 14 temperature sensors or more in it, if there were a problem somewhere, I'd see it.

I'll see if any other wires can be routed though.
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