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I've been running direct die mount for almost 6 months with my own mount and the temps and performance is great.
My thread on my direct die mount:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2775935&postcount=94


I think physics can prove that eliminating the IHS and mounting direct die properly is better for cooling. I never used the IHS so I have no before and after tests to show but I'm sure people will be posting tests like this soon now that EK made a direct die mounting kit.

So you get those amazing temps with just normal watercooling? What temps did you get with IHS after delid if you tried it.
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So you get those amazing temps with just normal watercooling? What temps did you get with IHS after delid if you tried it.
Amazing? Seem a little high for direct die.
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Amazing? Seem a little high for direct die.

My chip ran very hot to begin with and I debated whether to sell it and get another or delid for a few months before I finally delidded.

I went straight to direct die since to me it seems like removing the IHS allows better thermal transfer from die directly to water block.


Never tested with IHS so I can't provide any comparison temps for my die but to me direct die seems like it will work better and if somebody knows the mathematical physics behind it I think the benefits could be shown with math.
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Amazing? Seem a little high for direct die.

Compared to with the IHS it is amazing. It is basically a free 30-50 drop since you already delidded.
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I did that same thing man. Your IMC is toast OR you bent some pins in your CPU socket.

Yeah man. It's so sad knowing that I have damaged the imc. I have confirmed that no pins are bent. Could reseating the heat sink with a paper btw the ihs n the die will resulted in a better contact pressure?
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My chip ran very hot to begin with and I debated whether to sell it and get another or delid for a few months before I finally delidded.

I went straight to direct die since to me it seems like removing the IHS allows better thermal transfer from die directly to water block.


Never tested with IHS so I can't provide any comparison temps for my die but to me direct die seems like it will work better and if somebody knows the mathematical physics behind it I think the benefits could be shown with math.
If it is working, that is great. I have a lot of trouble with my IHS I would like to get rid of it, but not sure if I am up for the challenge.
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Compared to with the IHS it is amazing. It is basically a free 30-50 drop since you already delidded.
I just tested my chip with 5.0 and 1.41v which is measurable more voltage and did 10 IBT runs as his screen shot shows. If you account for his 18.6c ambient vs my 24c then my hottest core was 68c vs his 70c. I use an IHS, and a very simple loop with very slow fans. Not sure where see a 50c drop.
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If it is working, that is great. I have a lot of trouble with my IHS I would like to get rid of it, but not sure if I am up for the challenge.
I just tested my chip with 5.0 and 1.41v which is measurable more voltage and did 10 IBT runs as his screen shot shows. If you account for his 18.6c ambient vs my 24c then my hottest core was 68c vs his 70c. I use an IHS, and a very simple loop with very slow fans. Not sure where see a 50c drop.

Lol my bad, I thought the temperatures where while IBT was running, then I looked at his max and saw 70c. I get about 50-55c on prime, 55-60c on IBT and linpack. This is with the IHS. Running 1.43v
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My max temps during gaming are about 60'C - If I were to move to a monsta 240 rad and a custom cpu loop, what would I be looking at for max loads? biggrin.gif

Got the EK block & fittings on the way. Also would I be even better off going direct-die water-cooling, or just leaving the IHS and CPU bracket in place? Was thinking about getting the EK Precision Mount Ivy kit.

There's a potential risk of crushing the die and you won't be looking at massive temp difference unless you're using a bad quality TIM under the IHS.
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Yeah man. It's so sad knowing that I have damaged the imc. I have confirmed that no pins are bent. Could reseating the heat sink with a paper btw the ihs n the die will resulted in a better contact pressure?

You could give it a try, but I highly doubt it to change anything. So you're basically limited to 16GB of total memory space and half the memory bandwidth from dual channel memory, which really isn't the worst thing in the world.
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you must have a hot chip. i have my ihs on and my temps are great, id probably drop 1c if i went direct die i honestly dont think its worth it

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What is the normal difference in temps between a delidded 3570k and delidded 3770k?
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