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Hi guys, I also made a video doing this, even before this huge thread started. There are a lot of useful info on here, so can I put a link of this thread in my video description? I was going to do it, but thought it would be a better idea to get permission from the OP or any moderators first.




By all means go right ahead tongue.gif
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Seems like many IB chips operate at different temps. You would have to try direct die to know for certain what benefit if any there is.


What was you IBT pass time when you ran it to compare to my run?
Mine was slower, I didn’t note it but I know it was in the 120s. What exactly does the time and gflops tell us?
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What multiplier and voltage are you running? I think your cooler is equivalent to a NH-D14 correct? Standard water cooling is not going to do much better for temps than a good air cooler.

Lots of opinions about direct die, but if you get that new kit I think that eliminates some of the risks and problems associated with it. I would like to know how it performs if anyone here tests it.

My cooler is up there with the big boys yes, it falls slightly below the NH-D14 by a few degrees.

The loop I wish to implement is this:
8 x XSPC Chrome G1/4 to 7/16 ID, 5/8 OD Compression Fitting
1 x EK-Supremacy Nickel Plex x £56
1 x Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta 240 - £67.74
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1 x Mayhems Pastel - Blueberry Blue Coolant 1L £14.99
1 x XSPC 7/16" ID (16/11mm) High Flex Hose - Clear (1m Length) £2.99

I already have Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1850s. I wish to go Direct die.

I run my chip at 4.7GHz, v1.36-7, speed step enabled. Temps hit 70-72'C MAX with IBT maximum stress run, 60'c in everyday use. I'm hoping that going direct die with this water cooling loop will drop my temps another 20'c maybe?
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Mine was slower, I didn’t note it but I know it was in the 120s. What exactly does the time and gflops tell us?

Not much, 3570k's almost always finish faster and get more glfops than 3770k's in IBT, which makes no sense. I've also seen a higher clocked cpu get a LOWER score than the same one clocked lower.
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Tracking shows my CLU will arrive tomorrow, so a couple of questions in preparation for delidding:

  • I'm disinclined to use CLU between the IHS and my H220 block. I also have on hand the TIM Mate that comes with the H220 and AS5. Which one should I choose?
  • Speaking of AS5, I've always kept mine in the freezer for storage. Is this actually beneficial?
  • Granted, I have an antistatic band and mat, but I do wonder if they're even necessary where I live. Since I'm 2 miles from the ocean and 1 mile from San Diego bay, the only time static becomes an issue is when we have Santa Ana winds, which normally occur during the fall. During most of the year, I could rub my feet on the carpet for 5 minutes and barely get a jolt out of it. I know that I'm better safe than sorry, but given a relatively high humidity environment, what are the chances for static damage?
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Originally Posted by illuz View Post

My cooler is up there with the big boys yes, it falls slightly below the NH-D14 by a few degrees.

The loop I wish to implement is this:
8 x XSPC Chrome G1/4 to 7/16 ID, 5/8 OD Compression Fitting
1 x EK-Supremacy Nickel Plex x £56
1 x Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta 240 - £67.74
1 x XSPC D5 Vario Pump & EK-D5 X-TOP CSQ Plexi Combo £81.99
1 x EK-RES X3 250 Reservoir £45.12
1 x Mayhems Pastel - Blueberry Blue Coolant 1L £14.99
1 x XSPC 7/16" ID (16/11mm) High Flex Hose - Clear (1m Length) £2.99

I already have Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1850s. I wish to go Direct die.

I run my chip at 4.7GHz, v1.36-7, speed step enabled. Temps hit 70-72'C MAX with IBT maximum stress run, 60'c in everyday use. I'm hoping that going direct die with this water cooling loop will drop my temps another 20'c maybe?
Others here know more than I, but the cooling comes mostly from rad space and with a single 240 rad there is only so much you can do. I would say switching from what you have to the new setup would reduce temps a few degrees but not 10c or anything. As for direct die, I don’t know how much that will take off, but I would assume a few more.

Keeping an oc Ivy chip below 60c in real life use is good, so you are not doing bad right now.
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Originally Posted by illuz View Post

My cooler is up there with the big boys yes, it falls slightly below the NH-D14 by a few degrees.

The loop I wish to implement is this:
8 x XSPC Chrome G1/4 to 7/16 ID, 5/8 OD Compression Fitting
1 x EK-Supremacy Nickel Plex x £56
1 x Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta 240 - £67.74
1 x XSPC D5 Vario Pump & EK-D5 X-TOP CSQ Plexi Combo £81.99
1 x EK-RES X3 250 Reservoir £45.12
1 x Mayhems Pastel - Blueberry Blue Coolant 1L £14.99
1 x XSPC 7/16" ID (16/11mm) High Flex Hose - Clear (1m Length) £2.99

I already have Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1850s. I wish to go Direct die.

I run my chip at 4.7GHz, v1.36-7, speed step enabled. Temps hit 70-72'C MAX with IBT maximum stress run, 60'c in everyday use. I'm hoping that going direct die with this water cooling loop will drop my temps another 20'c maybe?

Looks like a good build. That pump with a top is overkill for 1 rad and only cpu loop. It is future proof though if you want to add a gpu later, or add more rads if you get a bigger case. Then you can get 1/2 3/4 tubing as it is the biggest and allows for more flow.

For temps, water usually drops them by 10-30c, it really depends on different factors. With CLU/CLP on the die you will get even more temp drops maybe 15c. I got 45+ temp drops going from air to straight delid water, but I used the IHS, not sure why lol.
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Looks like a good build. That pump with a top is overkill for 1 rad and only cpu loop. It is future proof though if you want to add a gpu later, or add more rads if you get a bigger case. Then you can get 1/2 3/4 tubing as it is the biggest and allows for more flow.

For temps, water usually drops them by 10-30c, it really depends on different factors. With CLU/CLP on the die you will get even more temp drops maybe 15c. I got 45+ temp drops going from air to straight delid water, but I used the IHS, not sure why lol.

45C drop?

Must be a really bad air cooler I must say.
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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

Others here know more than I, but the cooling comes mostly from rad space and with a single 240 rad there is only so much you can do. I would say switching from what you have to the new setup would reduce temps a few degrees but not 10c or anything. As for direct die, I don’t know how much that will take off, but I would assume a few more.

Keeping an oc Ivy chip below 60c in real life use is good, so you are not doing bad right now.

I know I'm doing well at the moment, but I wish to go to water cooling anyway. I want every bit of cooling I can get thumb.gif

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Originally Posted by Arm3nian View Post

Looks like a good build. That pump with a top is overkill for 1 rad and only cpu loop. It is future proof though if you want to add a gpu later, or add more rads if you get a bigger case. Then you can get 1/2 3/4 tubing as it is the biggest and allows for more flow.

For temps, water usually drops them by 10-30c, it really depends on different factors. With CLU/CLP on the die you will get even more temp drops maybe 15c. I got 45+ temp drops going from air to straight delid water, but I used the IHS, not sure why lol.

I'm going to add my SLI GTX670s later in the year with an XT45 360 radiator up the top. I'll change the fittings when I do this too. smile.gif
I already have delidded with CLU under the IHS and on the IHS which is how I'm at 60'c general use.

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Originally Posted by SDBolts619 View Post

Tracking shows my CLU will arrive tomorrow, so a couple of questions in preparation for delidding:

  • I'm disinclined to use CLU between the IHS and my H220 block. I also have on hand the TIM Mate that comes with the H220 and AS5. Which one should I choose?
  • Speaking of AS5, I've always kept mine in the freezer for storage. Is this actually beneficial?
  • Granted, I have an antistatic band and mat, but I do wonder if they're even necessary where I live. Since I'm 2 miles from the ocean and 1 mile from San Diego bay, the only time static becomes an issue is when we have Santa Ana winds, which normally occur during the fall. During most of the year, I could rub my feet on the carpet for 5 minutes and barely get a jolt out of it. I know that I'm better safe than sorry, but given a relatively high humidity environment, what are the chances for static damage?

Why so? Metal polish takes it off. You'll see 10-15'c drop with it on the die, and another 10'c comes from having it on the IHS also. (In my case anyway)
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heres the interior ideas. my current loop layout will go from the dual pump setup to the 5 rads then to the cpu block then the block chain of 7970's or 7950's and then to the left Res and under to the other res on the right back to the pumps.... that sound right?
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