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67C is the highest i got. running direct to die with CLP and raystor, RS360

You have the same kinda chip as me mate, I'm now running 4.8Ghz 247 at v1.424, fluctuates between v1.36-42 depending on load. I'm gonna go direct contact too when I finish buying my custom loop thumb.gif

Speaking of fluctuation, even with a multimeter measurement on my mobo's test point, the voltage was bang on 1.575V for me at idle or full load. Seems like ASRock did a good job with the OC Formula.
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Topic sidetracked?? What topic? biggrin.gif

We chat about everything here, but when someone has a question about delidding we are all ready to help. That is why this is my favorite thread on OCN. Thanks Valgaur!!

No problem tongue.gif
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No 1.9v?

No I only did that to try for 5.6 a few times never took a pic of it as I never got 5.6 rolleyes.gif
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So do you guys think that Haswell would most probably use fluxless solder or would Intel use their 'Secret Sauce' and ruin these new chips again?
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So do you guys think that Haswell would most probably use fluxless solder or would Intel use their 'Secret Sauce' and ruin these new chips again?

Their secret sauce isn't bad at all it's the spacing that the glue made issues with the heat resourting to delidding, and with the smaller die size solder doesn't work so they will use TIM again
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I'm guessing it'll be TIM again. Haswell was being worked on before Ivy Bridge was even released (as Broadwell is being worked on before Haswell is released), so the assembly/packaging methods are unlikely to change.

I say "worked on", I mean wafers / packaged chips exist.
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I'm guessing it'll be TIM again. Haswell was being worked on before Ivy Bridge was even released (as Broadwell is being worked on before Haswell is released), so the assembly/packaging methods are unlikely to change.

I say "worked on", I mean wafers / packaged chips exist.

Even though you have a point in what you're saying, but this TIM issue was brought into light way back in 2012, so amendments could be made during that time as shipping just started this month.

Point being, if Intel wanted to resolve the problem, then they easily could have and also would have had the opportunity to do so during all this time, but if they don't, Haswell would be useless over Ivy in my opinion.
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Remember though that Intel probably doesn't consider this a problem. Most sales probably go to OEMs that don't overclock at all, where overclocking is really where thermal paste vs solder matters.

I kinda hope Haswell is still thermal paste so I can delid it and keep doing direct-die.
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I do a lot of buying and selling of parts. I'm always on the marketplace and the local Craigslist. I found a guy selling a bunch of mid-range enthusiast parts and in one of the PCs he was selling was a Corsair TX750w. The rig had a dead mobo, but I was able to sell all the other working parts, keep the TX750w and still make a profit. So it worked out well for me, free PSU essentially. The TX750 isn't exactly my dream PSU, but after reading a lot of reviews on JonnyGuru and HardwareSecrets, I was really uncomfortable powering $1000 worth of parts with a Thermaltake PSU.

What have you heard of Thermaltake PSU's? I've always thought they were a good reputable company. Thanks for the warning though, I'll look up the reviews. I haven't had an issue yet. I've had this build for about 7-8 months and the PSU for like 1 1/4 years. I know it comes with a 5 year warranty. I wonder if that would cover damage the PSU might cause. Prob' not. I really should look closer at warranty info.

I did however (as I said I got the PSU from Best Buy but I was without PC, usually I get all my stuff off Newegg, well I looked up Johnnyguru and Hardware Secrets but they were reviewing the Toughpower 850 watt PSU I had the Black Widow one, so I went on Newegg to see customer reviews, and I just found out that they did upgrade my model to something nicer. So I have the outdated model, but damn, I don't remember this PSU being 135 dollars?! I got it from BB which is supposedly higher priced at like 90 I think? No way it was more than 100. Both the outdated model (still available on newegg @ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153106) and newer version (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-153-158&Tpk=17-153-158) are $135. I'd love having the nicer one though someday. Kinda make you wonder powering your **** with something they found a problem with. Probably some minor improvements plus extra sexiness though.
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I don't really see a point in a case for a watercooled build. Its not going to be transportable anyway, due to weight and risk of destroying the loop, and it limits your space. Also it costs $.

Well, that's why I went with the Corsair H100i, I take my computer back and forth every week I'm moving it. But I'd sure like to know how much performance I'm losing by not using a custom loop.
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Meh Ive had my AX 1200 for 3 years with 3 different systems... Bout the onlything Corsair does right...
    
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Meh Ive had my AX 1200 for 3 years with 3 different systems... Bout the onlything Corsair does right...
haha my brother told me that he bought the hx1000w and it was DOA so he RMA'd it three different times cause each time it was DOA so the 4th time they sent him the AX 1200w and he's had it for the past three years lol thumb.gif
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