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How come more people don't use water chillers? Seems somewhat more convenient than dice/ln2
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How come more people don't use water chillers? Seems somewhat more convenient than dice/ln2

IIRC Not cold enough. You'll still get condensation below dew point anyway.. (18C?) Only way to go below freezing point is to mix the water with alcohol or glycol or something that lowers the freezing point. Even so, you are not going to get the processor below freezing.

SSphase can get you to between minus 30 and minus 50. Cascade can get you to around minus 110...
Dice can get you around minus 80, while LN2 can get you to minus 196....and then there's liquid helium
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IIRC Not cold enough. You'll still get condensation below dew point anyway.. (18C?) Only way to go below freezing point is to mix the water with alcohol or glycol or something that lowers the freezing point. Even so, you are not going to get the processor below freezing.

SSphase can get you to between minus 30 and minus 50. Cascade can get you to around minus 110...
Dice can get you around minus 80, while LN2 can get you to minus 196....and then there's liquid helium


Liquid Helium, alright ! -269 degrees Celsius thumb.gif
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Well theoretically LN2/Dice can't be used 24/7. That's just for extreme benching, breaking records, etc.

Water chillers are great for 24/7 usage, but cost quite a bit.
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Well theoretically LN2/Dice can't be used 24/7. That's just for extreme benching, breaking records, etc.

Water chillers are great for 24/7 usage, but cost quite a bit.

...I'm trying to find where I saw it, but there is a unique version of a TEC unit that has sensors that keeps your CPU within 2 to 3 C of its idle temp even under load - so no ice / condensation issues. It's major draw-back was power consumption...I have to look for the link
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Hmm so just made a loop with left over parts

ax120 w/ sp120 p/p

xspc kit reservoir/pump combo

and an rasa

my idle temps are ridiculously high lol I am talking ~41c did I get a bad mount? or what is going on lol.
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Hmm so just made a loop with left over parts

ax120 w/ sp120 p/p

xspc kit reservoir/pump combo

and an rasa

my idle temps are ridiculously high lol I am talking ~41c did I get a bad mount? or what is going on lol.


...pics possible ?
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tongue.gif have fun! I lost track of the club thread already...been to busy, this club takes a considerable part of my browsing time.
Best way? There is no such thing...just avoid using vaseline near the cpu socket.
Ask FtW wink.gif

I think LET (liquid electric tape) is probably the most versatile. Dragon skin like in the video is good to at least -125° or so, but the first time I ran at -196° for a while the dragon skin all cracked apart. LET is still fine at -196°.
Vaseline is the quickest & easiest, I've insulated a board in 2 minutes from out of the box & got to freezing, messy to clean after & vaseline does not agree with z77 sockets as ivan pointed out.
Eraser takes a while to put on, but comes off pretty easily & works at all temps..
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Originally Posted by Joa3d43 View Post

Liquid Helium, alright ! -269 degrees Celsius thumb.gif

I'd like to try it sometime, very expensive & needs custom made pots for it to be really effective....
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Well theoretically LN2/Dice can't be used 24/7. That's just for extreme benching, breaking records, etc.

Water chillers are great for 24/7 usage, but cost quite a bit.

Water chiller is similar to running phase, both are basically air conditioners, a few hundred watts. But what's a bit of electricity compared to more speed? It's fun to stomp on the gas pedal sometimes, even when gas is so expensive (almost as much as premium bottled water thinking.gif )!
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...I'm trying to find where I saw it, but there is a unique version of a TEC unit that has sensors that keeps your CPU within 2 to 3 C of its idle temp even under load - so no ice / condensation issues. It's major draw-back was power consumption...I have to look for the link

This one? http://www.overclock.net/t/1092075/drop-in-waterblock-for-the-ivy-sandy-bridge-without-the-tec-headaches
    
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...yeah, but there was also the chap from TO who had referenced that unit via a different link to a store...in any case, per your link above, it seems to be all about the dew point controller that makes it different from a normal TEC as it would not require any insulation
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...pics possible ?



Its a really small loop lol.

Is the ax just not good enough for just the processor?

I mean I have built a couple of loops but haven't got temps like this before.
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