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Phase is more expensive than a chiller...Chiller can be done with a waterblock, a pump, a big icebox thing, tubing and insulation for it and a cheep window ac unit. You just put the evaporator inside the water tank and fill it with glycol or something with low freezing points. A big enough AC can cool both a gpu and cpu, maybe more.
And there's also the Hailea HC500 and similar units which can be used with great success. A guy I know runs two in his triple titan and 3770k system. It goes down to 4c though, with 3 gpus.

Yea I knew that it was a little more expensive, but that's what he said a few pages back. But wait, if you're already using a Chiller, then why use a cheap AC unit with it?
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Nickel.

Thanks, I guess it doesn't make much difference anymore for me, I was just curios biggrin.gif

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OCN name:inedenimadam
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on die-TIM:AS5
ihs-TIM:AS5
Mhz gained:0
OC after delid:4.5 @1.128(DMM)
Temp drops:14C
CPU-Z validation of max OC: devil.gif 5.2Ghz devil.gif @ 1.488 (DMM)
http://valid.canardpc.com/2764701
Lapped IHS w/Sandpaper180--->320--->600--->800--->1200--->1500

did I forget something? am I in?
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How come more people don't use water chillers? Seems somewhat more convenient than dice/ln2

Will have this up and running next month. Have to move houses this month and don't want to move a 50 lb chiller.

They can get to freezing temperatures (assuming you have a big enough chiller, which I will). I'm going to take the fans off my RX480 and dunk it in 20 gallons of water, and then chill that (cheap) water and not the expensive pre-mix. I'll have to insulate the 20 gallon container and the tubing running to it from my case to keep it cold.

To deal with condensation: putting entire desktop in a big plastic bag, and pumping the output of a dehumidifier into it. Should be good down to -18C or so before I hit the frost point at 74F 5% Relative Humidity. My ambient is 74F 25-30% RH, so I figure the dehumidifier can easily strip out 20%. Won't look pretty, but I haven't cared about that in a while.
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Will have this up and running next month. Have to move houses this month and don't want to move a 50 lb chiller.

They can get to freezing temperatures (assuming you have a big enough chiller, which I will). I'm going to take the fans off my RX480 and dunk it in 20 gallons of water, and then chill that (cheap) water and not the expensive pre-mix. I'll have to insulate the 20 gallon container and the tubing running to it from my case to keep it cold.

To deal with condensation: putting entire desktop in a big plastic bag, and pumping the output of a dehumidifier into it. Should be good down to -18C or so before I hit the frost point at 74F 5% Relative Humidity. My ambient is 74F 25-30% RH, so I figure the dehumidifier can easily strip out 20%. Won't look pretty, but I haven't cared about that in a while.

Something else I thought about is how people say it is best to counteract high voltages like 1.6+ with extreme cooling, like dice/ln2 to increase the life of the cpu. You might get sub ambient or sub zero but how much more do you plan to overclock than what you currently have? Because ivy really likes volts after a certain clock speed, which creates a lot of heat.
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I'm looking at the exponential power vs temperature graph here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1247413/ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-with-ln2-guide-at-the-end/0_100

Where it seems like Ivy really likes good cooling, where it doesn't have to be insane like LN2. I'm aiming for 5,2 or if I'm lucky 5.4-5.5. Willing to go up to 1.75V.

I'll also get my GPU's super-cool in the process, and do a proof-of-concept on water chilled radiators that'll be applicable as long as waterblocks exist.
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I'm looking at the exponential power vs temperature graph here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1247413/ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-with-ln2-guide-at-the-end/0_100

Where it seems like Ivy really likes good cooling, where it doesn't have to be insane like LN2. I'm aiming for 5,2 or if I'm lucky 5.4-5.5. Willing to go up to 1.75V.

I'll also get my GPU's super-cool in the process, and do a proof-of-concept on water chilled radiators that'll be applicable as long as waterblocks exist.

Yeah that was my point, you might run into degrading at 1.75 w/o dice or higher temps. And you will hit a voltage wall with your 680s if you haven't already, unless you've hard modded.
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Yup doing all that with a 4.6 @ 1.304 but load i get under 61c its just my idles I am worried about lol. I mean I am using CLU on the die, But I never even moved it? lol.


...actually your RealTemp readings (minimum 30, 35, 33, 27) look good ?! Ditto for max...I'm wondering if a.) you use iGPU (as that raises some core's temp a bit) and b.) have some sort of Windows process gong on in the background, even with SpeedStep on...my Win 'enemy' is Superfetch that usually rattles on...but overall, your Min/Max RealTemp readings are well within the norm smile.gif
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...actually your RealTemp readings (minimum 30, 35, 33, 27) look good ?! Ditto for max...I'm wondering if a.) you use iGPU (as that raises some core's temp a bit) and b.) have some sort of Windows process gong on in the background, even with SpeedStep on...my Win 'enemy' is Superfetch that usually rattles on...but overall, your Min/Max RealTemp readings are well within the norm smile.gif

Yea well sitting around 39 is a bit fishy lol. but I mean its fine My load temps are good just wondering lol.

Super fetch and all that jazz was disabled thanks to sean and his ssd optimizations for windows lol.

thanks though Just need to probably reapply CLU as 8 degree difference is kinda irking me.
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Yeah that was my point, you might run into degrading at 1.75 w/o dice or higher temps. And you will hit a voltage wall with your 680s if you haven't already, unless you've hard modded.

...presumably, the 'absolute' max for Ivy per Intel on good water-cooling is about 1.55v (per link included in the previous posts). Which doesn't change the fact that some folks are 'risk-takers' http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2662292 ...I have done some light benching at 5.3 GHz (1.55v) and temps were hard to control even with low ambient temp and a strong w-c solution...

...re GPUs / 600 series (and even Titan), the hard-wired 'max' is 1.215v...with voltage mods, you can get around that, but apparently there are folks who put 1.4v into a Titan that was being 'extreme-cooled' and killed it
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^^ That's the max that Nvidia wants. Lightnings go up to 1.38 (or it might be 1.368, can't remember exactly), because they don't use the stock pwm power controller.

If it breaks, I'll frame it, put it on the wall, and buy another biggrin.gif

More seriously, I realize I'm crossing into danger-zone with the voltages I want to run, but I accept the risks.
Edited by dr/owned - 4/10/13 at 10:40am
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