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You're In! thumb.gif you could give the CLU on the IHS a try might yeild you a few more °C but sometimes it doesnt, what cooler you got thats the real question now that your heat can move much better.

I'm glad you asked. I am fully water-cooled. I'm using a EK-Supremacy HF CPU block. When I was trying to clean off the CLU from the EK I had to use a pad to kind of brush it out. It pretty much ruined the mirror finish of the copper block. Obviously from my temps it must not be a big deal but you think it will hurt anything?

Also a basic OC question. I'm very happy with 4.6 right now but, where can I go with this now? I could try to go for a higher over clock, but I'd rather get the temps down even further. Does the increased headroom delidding gave allow me to drop the vcore further and maintain stability for 4.6?
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I'm glad you asked. I am fully water-cooled. I'm using a EK-Supremacy HF CPU block. When I was trying to clean off the CLU from the EK I had to use a pad to kind of brush it out. It pretty much ruined the mirror finish of the copper block. Obviously from my temps it must not be a big deal but you think it will hurt anything?

Also a basic OC question. I'm very happy with 4.6 right now but, where can I go with this now? I could try to go for a higher over clock, but I'd rather get the temps down even further. Does the increased headroom delidding gave allow me to drop the vcore further and maintain stability for 4.6?

the stains are fine it just makes the copper smoother as the residue you are seeing is filling the impurities of the metal bottom. The OC issue link me your CPUZ again so I can look at your voltages, but very rarely we see a drop in vcore required for OC's, but you never know wink.gif
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GPU Competition and legal stuff

2cents.gifsmile.gif ...it's always an interesting experience when posting some idependtly verified global competition results (most with the delidded 3770K)...the attempts to discredit, or worse, accuse one of cheating, are not unexpected by now, but they should stop (please see the legal summary in the 'spoiler' below). It is also sad to watch...

...HWBot (the site where global bench competitions are hosted) lists in their video card section the five currently most popular cards...they are 7970, 680, Titan, 670 and 580...of course you can then look for more detailed listings by brand as well for other cards...fact is, 670ies have become popular, with over 2,700 submissions...whereby the number of submissions is also a function of how long a card has been on the market...in the above 5 listing, 670ies are the second 'newest'

...any time you submit a specific result, say for a 670, the HWBot site returns info where you stack up against all other video cards (incl. Titans, 7970ies etc), no matter whether they are 'Enthusiast' (non-extreme cooling) or Pro (extreme cooling)...you also have to submit pics of your hardware, as well as verification URLs...I didn't even compete at HWBot until less than two months ago (and took a sabbatical for a month as I was building up my 'Siamese twins')...I really did not set out to collect cups and records, including against much bigger guns who use extreme cooling, but it happened anyways...

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...Being part of the OCN HWBot team, I started out in 922nd place in that team, and within a few weeks hit the top 10 (currently #3)...that is INDEPENDENT of hardware (ie what GPUs I run)...in country rankings, I am somewhat surprised to find myself in 3rd spot as well...even in worldwide rankings, I started out at 'way behind' and worked my way up to 122nd rank out of 17426 at the time of writing - against ANY hardware (CPU, mobo, GPU) - all in what is an effective 30+ days of actually being 'active'....but what that also means is that I could contribute over 140 point for the OCN team at HWBot, with the OCN team being itself in 'ranking' competition against other teams.

...I really am not looking for anybody's approval / disapproval at the 'delid' thread - obviously, I have chosen to compete at a globally verified site instead, because frankly, you don't get so much hatred there...I still post some select results at 'delid' because that is where I picked up a lot of info to prep my machines...so much for trying to say 'thank you'. mad.gif

...At the end of the day, I like 670ies for a couple of reasons...first and foremost, they have a lower watt rating (and thus heat) per clock than 680ies with the same die size, though obviously 680ies have more CUDA cores...670ies will clock nice and high and when they were released, it was quite embarrassing to NVidia for 670ies being very close / even beating 680ies in some reviews...

...Also, I have never run less than SLI, and while going up to quads, and power consumption becomes a real issue...a single 670 at stock uses over 100 watts LESS per card than a 7970...ultimately, I build systems that 'maximize the area under the curve', rather than establish high peaks (ie outright GHz numbers) - and that turned out to be a good recipe for success, along with memory subsystems that are optimized and low 'v' CPUs...this also allows me to run all my GPUs with 'stock' air cooling. I could go out this afternoon and buy 4 Titans if I would want to given my hardware budget...but I don't - I MUCH rather make a silk purse of a sow's ear...way more fun than just pulling out a wallet.

...can't remember whether it was in 'Valley or 'Heaven'(Valley I think), but when I posted my quad 670ies score that was over 6000, there were some folks not happy about that as it beat even some tri-Titans...but that was nothing compared to one or two guys who had great success with 7950ies, beating much more expensive hardware...they got some posts that all but accused them of cheating...in the end, even that is 'normal', unfortunately...the more your system performs above average, the worse it will get...

--- teaching.gif

...'delid' has suffered a fairly large number of posts that were modded / removed lately...just because the internet allows for a large degree of anonymity does not mean that basic rules of courtesy should be ignored...and more than that, there are actually legal issues as well...on the commercial side, we run some global business hubs that also have the ability to post...though we review each submission BEFORE it gets released (I am one of the 'mods'), given the nature of what we do (also relates to intellectual property etc). But no matter what site or specialty, there are some legal basics folks who post on any site should be aware...here is a nice summary from 'wisegeek.org' which reflect the general rules succinctly:
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Warning: internet harassment laws Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Internet harassment laws make it a criminal act to use the Internet to threaten, torment, stalk, intimidate or otherwise distress a person. Legislation and enforcement varies from one jurisdiction to another, but Internet harassment laws are put in place to protect potential victims from the trauma of cyberstalking, cyberbullying and other forms of internet harassment. In some regions, provisions have been made within broader harassment laws specifically relating to the Internet and other forms of communication.

Legal definitions of Internet harassment vary slightly from one region to another, but most jurisdictions agree on the basic principles. Internet harassment is an attempt to use email or another form of electronic communication to torment, threaten, stalk or perform some similar act that would cause distress to a reasonable person. When determining the difference between simple rudeness and criminal harassment, authorities are likely to consider issues such as the attacker’s apparent intent, the frequency of the remarks or postings, evidence of premeditation or information gathering, whether others were encouraged to participate in these acts and whether remarks or attacks were directed specifically at the victim.

For those found guilty, the penalties for violating Internet harassment laws depend on the severity of the attacks and the jurisdiction. Harassment convictions can result in fines, community service or a prison sentence. If the victim made previous attempts to make the attacker stop, or if the attacker engaged in other illegal activities such as hacking to harass the victim, sentencing is likely to be harsher.
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Do not worry it will be ok.



For internet harassment... You should Try the Corvette forums.... Those guys are some of the worst people u will find on the internet...

95% of a bunch of rich Snobby old guys...

Ive had a Guy that goes by RC00e Stalk me across 3-4 forums all the way to my You tube pages where i have had to disable msges on them... and this has went on for 5-6 years...

If he evver trys that here.. then i will have to contact his local police... but he is yet to come to any of the computer forums im on...

His harassment has been constant crude remarks to me about me my wife and kid... he has made pictures of me and my wife / kid with little boxes of text saying crude things.....

That is internet harassment....
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the stains are fine it just makes the copper smoother as the residue you are seeing is filling the impurities of the metal bottom. The OC issue link me your CPUZ again so I can look at your voltages, but very rarely we see a drop in vcore required for OC's, but you never know wink.gif

I have vcore set to 1.275 but under load in CPU-z it drops to 1.248
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You know what they say about arguing over the internet being like the special olympics...

[Just in case this post is needed wink.gif ]
     
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Posted this in the water cooling club, but my first basic water cooling is about done. Since it is a dilidded chip the temp numbers might be helpful to someone new here. CLU on the die and IHS.

Any of you water cooling guys, let me know if you see anything wrong. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Delidded 3770k, 5.0 @ 1.41v, MVF, 16 gb TridentX 2400, Switch 810
Swiftech: H220, 220 rad bottom, 320 rad top, 140 rad back

5 NF-F12 fans on top/bottom rads, one NF-A14 on 140 rad, two more NF-A14 case fans

Heatkiller hole edition full cover copper block with backplate for the GTX 690

2 Bitspower 45 degree compression fittings, the rest are Swiftech Lok-seal compression, using Swiftech black Truflex 3/8-5/8 tubing

With the rad fans at 60% (the lowest bios settings I have), case fans on the low noise adapter, and the H220 pump at 30% this setup is very quiet. With those quiet settings my Prime95 max core temps with an 8k-8k torture test with 90% ram usage for 15 minutes with the chip at 5.0, 1.41v are:
68, 71, 70, 66 in a 22.7c room

Running a benchmark Valley 1.0 run with a max gpu overclock +155, +740 my two cores are about 40c max.
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justanoldman, that looks very nice! Well done biggrin.gif
I see you got fine taste in fans too...thumb.gif
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The other day I delidded my 3770K and everything went so smooth (I used the vise method). Today I got my Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra and put it all back together. I boot my computer up and it says "New CPU detected please hit F1 to enter setup". THIS IS WHERE I ABOUT SHAT MYSELF. I go into the bios and everything looks A OK so I just hit save and restart and BOOM windows pops up and i'm off and running. I don't know what that little hiccup was, but could anyone share what they think it was please, and thank you in advance.
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The other day I delidded my 3770K and everything went so smooth (I used the vise method). Today I got my Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra and put it all back together. I boot my computer up and it says "New CPU detected please hit F1 to enter setup". THIS IS WHERE I ABOUT SHAT MYSELF. I go into the bios and everything looks A OK so I just hit save and restart and BOOM windows pops up and i'm off and running. I don't know what that little hiccup was, but could anyone share what they think it was please, and thank you in advance.

I don't know why but it happened to me as well and I've de-lidded a few chips
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