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Did anyone here go from AS5 to CLU/CLP? There is no "previous TIM" section on the OP graph so that's no use ... I'm trying to prove to someone that going from AS5 to CLU is worth it by citing delid procedures with the respectable temp drops. I'm thinking they're about in line with 10-15ºC right?

I went from MX-2 to CLU and got a 14c drop, I think it would be around the same with AS5.
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Yeah, I have to give this mobo back to its owner...my current work horse (D945GCCR) isn't mine, a coworker gave it to me till I could repair the MVG.
I won't need to get risers to install my 7950 too, which is nice. MOAR bandwidth!I wonder if you can run xfire with a 7xxx and 6xxx card. rolleyes.gif
I'm gonna have to resell the 6950 and get a second 7950 soonish.

EDIT: well, no...you can't. But I can xfire with a 7970 so maybe I'll get that instead and kill two birds with one stone biggrin.gif
MVG is good for up to 3 gpus too, though the third one will suffer if you install it with a riser.

Edited by ivanlabrie - 4/30/13 at 11:11pm
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Yeah, I have to give this mobo back to its owner...my current work horse (D945GCCR) isn't mine, a coworker gave it to me till I could repair the MVG.
I won't need to get risers to install my 7950 too, which is nice. MOAR bandwidth!I wonder if you can run xfire with a 7xxx and 6xxx card. rolleyes.gif
I'm gonna have to resell the 6950 and get a second 7950 soonish.

EDIT: well, no...you can't. But I can xfire with a 7970 so maybe I'll get that instead and kill two birds with one stone biggrin.gif
MVG is good for up to 3 gpus too, though the third one will suffer if you install it with a riser.

...what do you mean by riser ?
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It is indeed normal for uni connections - as they cap the downloads, but rarely cap the uploads tongue.gif

PS.
8Pack broke 3 world records!!!

http://www.vortez.net/news_story/overclocks_own_8_pack_returns_with_3_world_overclocking_records.html

He's a monster bencher! Should have some insane Titan scores coming soon too.
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so guys for my wooden build Im thinking TEC cooling for a 3930K and quadfire as well the rads will be worth it then tongue.gif

A 3930k might be a bit hard on a TEC, doable but straight water might actually work better at high clocks & voltage. Benching 3930k on my single stage isn't bad, but more than a few minutes with all 12 threads loaded at 100% gets pretty rough. Sb-e makes a lot of heat by 5ghz.
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...what's the difference between armaflex and neoprene - just brand names ?
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...are you going to do competitive benching - if so, LN2 will move you to a different class if you aren't already there ? smile.gif I think I may use the IVY in LN2 soon, but don't know if one can run in two classes at the same time (as the 3970x will stay water cooled)...have to ask FtW

...btw, your build sounds amazing...so much fun going outside the 'normal case' limitations, isn't ? smile.gif

Both closed cell foam, the neoprene is a bit softer but they do the same job.

Submit one extreme cooled score, & you're in the extreme OC league, for good.
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...I feel almost 'obligated' to do s.th. with the two CPUs, both having strong IMCs and running low 'v'...and I'm quite willing to do some volt-modding even on the 670ies...and hoping that some 780ies will have non-ref PCBs (like MSI Lightning; Asus Top)

...the 3970X will eventually go to 'work' so I am unlikely to push it past 5.2 GHz for now in benching...and I also just read ""confirmation"" about the 4960X Ivy-E coming out in September which looks a lot closer to the current 3970X than I thought (I had hoped for a Haswell-E, but that will come out later w/new chipset) ...more here: http://wccftech.com/intel-ivy-bridge-e-lga2011-hedt-processors-launching-september-2013/

...but given the results I have seen, my CPUs are fast enough as it is without doing s.th. drastic...it's the GPUs that need a bit more speed / extreme cooling...two of them can touch 1340+ - / 1800s at 1.215v hard limit on air, but there are guys that run them at 1476+ w/LN2 and volt-mods
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Well, seems like you're on the right track...focus on older cards. Not worth murdering the 670s when you can get way more points on older volt modded and cold stuff...Talking 30-50pts vs 15pts.
I'm gonna have to get Haswell but not at launch, maybe by Christmas.

I agree with this, older cards are fun to start with & less to lose when things go wrong, & something eventually does go wrong. I've killed 2 new cards with failed vmods (one a $600 >3 week old gtx295), & 3 or 4 old 8800s learning to insulate for subzero. Benching gets addicting enough, when the thrill of taking older cards to the breaking point doesn't fulfill the need for speed anymore, then risk the new expensive ones.

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I'd rather get Haswell really...8ghz on ln2 is tempting, and so is the increased ram oc capabilities, and super beastly 2d powa.
Plus I may get unlocked i3 chips with some luck.
mwahaha biggrin.gif 3d benching monsta!

Ivy-e though, 6Ghz + 12 thread full pot goodness. At least it better be or I will be so disappoint ...
    
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He's a monster bencher! Should have some insane Titan scores coming soon too.
A 3930k might be a bit hard on a TEC, doable but straight water might actually work better at high clocks & voltage. Benching 3930k on my single stage isn't bad, but more than a few minutes with all 12 threads loaded at 100% gets pretty rough. Sb-e makes a lot of heat by 5ghz.

Both closed cell foam, the neoprene is a bit softer but they do the same job.

Submit one extreme cooled score, & you're in the extreme OC league, for good.

I agree with this, older cards are fun to start with & less to lose when things go wrong, & something eventually does go wrong. I've killed 2 new cards with failed vmods (one a $600 >3 week old gtx295), & 3 or 4 old 8800s learning to insulate for subzero. Benching gets addicting enough, when the thrill of taking older cards to the breaking point doesn't fulfill the need for speed anymore, then risk the new expensive ones.
Ivy-e though, 6Ghz + 12 thread full pot goodness. At least it better be or I will be so disappoint ...

Well, if Ivy-E does 6.2ghz 6c/12t then I'm sold! Specially paired with 2600mhz quad channel PSC.
But still, Haswell might be better all around and cheaper.

EDIT: http://www.techimo.com/forum/graphics-cards-displays/271920-xfire-pcie-1x.html
I might be able to fold despite the third card being in an 1x slot...thumb.gif
Edited by ivanlabrie - 4/30/13 at 11:35pm
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Originally Posted by FtW 420 View Post

He's a monster bencher! Should have some insane Titan scores coming soon too.
A 3930k might be a bit hard on a TEC, doable but straight water might actually work better at high clocks & voltage. Benching 3930k on my single stage isn't bad, but more than a few minutes with all 12 threads loaded at 100% gets pretty rough. Sb-e makes a lot of heat by 5ghz.

Both closed cell foam, the neoprene is a bit softer but they do the same job.

Submit one extreme cooled score, & you're in the extreme OC league, for good.

I agree with this, older cards are fun to start with & less to lose when things go wrong, & something eventually does go wrong. I've killed 2 new cards with failed vmods (one a $600 >3 week old gtx295), & 3 or 4 old 8800s learning to insulate for subzero. Benching gets addicting enough, when the thrill of taking older cards to the breaking point doesn't fulfill the need for speed anymore, then risk the new expensive ones.
Ivy-e though, 6Ghz + 12 thread full pot goodness. At least it better be or I will be so disappoint ...

I'm still shooting idea but it would be pretty sweet if you joined my idea planning sir! been wondering where you have been! tongue.gif
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Ivy-e though, 6Ghz + 12 thread full pot goodness. At least it better be or I will be so disappoint ...

I reeeeeeaaaaaally hope intel doesn't mess ivy-e up, if they take it to its full potential I think we can look forward to something nice. Also ivy-e sounds like old tech since haswell is coming but it is just as advanced imo.
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Well, it's not as advanced technically, but has an advantage with two more cores and 4 more threads.
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...what do you mean by riser ?

A ribbon cable type adapter that goes between the pci-e slot & pci-e tab on the card, so you can run a card outside the mobo area.
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Well, if Ivy-E does 6.2ghz 6c/12t then I'm sold! Specially paired with 2600mhz quad channel PSC.
But still, Haswell might be better all around and cheaper.

EDIT: http://www.techimo.com/forum/graphics-cards-displays/271920-xfire-pcie-1x.html
I might be able to fold despite the third card being in an 1x slot...thumb.gif

Haswell will be better for things limited to 4c/8t, but for multithread ivy-e should be beastly.
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I'm still shooting idea but it would be pretty sweet if you joined my idea planning sir! been wondering where you have been! tongue.gif

I'll do that! Been busy with planning & working for money to see plans come through.
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I reeeeeeaaaaaally hope intel doesn't mess ivy-e up, if they take it to its full potential I think we can look forward to something nice. Also ivy-e sounds like old tech since haswell is coming but it is just as advanced imo.
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Well, it's not as advanced technically, but has an advantage with two more cores and 4 more threads.

Haswell will do better in single thread performance & anything that is limited to the core & thread count. Ivy-e should be the fastest hexcore though, & a hexcore that overclocks like ivy bridge & scales with cold should be impressive.
I plan on having both.
    
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A ribbon cable type adapter that goes between the pci-e slot & pci-e tab on the card, so you can run a card outside the mobo area.
Haswell will be better for things limited to 4c/8t, but for multithread ivy-e should be beastly.
I'll do that! Been busy with planning & working for money to see plans come through.

Haswell will do better in single thread performance & anything that is limited to the core & thread count. Ivy-e should be the fastest hexcore though, & a hexcore that overclocks like ivy bridge & scales with cold should be impressive.
I plan on having both.

well I'm curious to see what ideas you can come up with in my plans (been waiting all day tongue.gif ) I hear you on the money making parts though... this build is gonna kill some major money....
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