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So would any Best Buy employee be eligible for that deal? I might be able to talk the two guys over there that I know into getting one for me.

wanna ask them for me on the 3930K? pwetty pwease!?
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Originally Posted by CallsignVega View Post

Looking to de-lid a 4770K when it comes in. Some questions for those that have done this on IB:

If you do a direct-die CPU cooler mount, is the die too recessed down for a heat sink to contact it without a heat spreader on? Is there any way to leave the clamp/latch of the CPU off so that the CPU cooler can do the double duty of pressing down on the CPU die which presses down on the pins for contact?

If enough pressure is needed, is cracking the die easy to do? I will be using a Koolance 380i CPU cooler.

Trying to go with direct die to cooling block, would Coolabs liquid ultra be quite a bit better than PK4? I've used coolabds Ultra before but didn't see much better results than PK4, but that was on a normal heat spreader mounting.

...in addition to other responses, it is also possible to retain the CPU latch mechanism by machining the water-block around the 'outside perimeter', like 'Gdesmo' has done here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1256763/lets-see-some-direct-die-water-cooling-on-ivy-bridge/20#post_19624112

...in addition EK's 'bare die' stand-offs for 3770K (under EU 7) will also be available for Haswell, according to EK

...I'm using a Koolance 370i cooler (related to 380) on a delidded 3770K I have tried 'bare die' but changed back for other reasons, and the spring-loaded thumb-screw locks combined with soft-metal washers would make it really tough to crack the die...I am sure you know to tighten it evenly and by hand only to reduce uneven pressure ridges

...Coollaboratory Ultra on the die gave me the best temps by > 5 C compared to the best non-liquid metal alternatives
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Originally Posted by Valgaur View Post

wanna ask them for me on the 3930K? pwetty pwease!?

...after my post on that here, I went down to my regular NCIX store and 'put my name into the hat' for another SB-E...they also mentioned that if all else fails, these kind of Intel promos for associates always end up on Craig's List'...keep your eyes peeled tongue.gif
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Thanks for the info guys. I'll de-lid the 4770k and run my 380i cooler bare-die with removed bracket and Cool lab Ultra. thumb.gif
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I am trying to install the naked ivy bridge (EK mount) and I dont have 4 .7mm plastic washers for the m4 screws. What should I do. Also I cant seem to find the the EK Supremacy box so if there are extra washers in there i obviously cant use those. If you want to look at the installation guide go here. Please help me I dont knof if a hardware store would carry something that small.
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I am trying to install the naked ivy bridge (EK mount) and I dont have 4 .7mm plastic washers for the m4 screws. What should I do. Also I cant seem to find the the EK Supremacy box so if there are extra washers in there i obviously cant use those. If you want to look at the installation guide go here. Please help me I dont knof if a hardware store would carry something that small.

...the problem with running direct-die is the reduced depth from stock which affects the 'CPU-to-pin' contacts - too loose or too tight mounting will likely lead to BIOS post issues, and/or partial IMC channel dysfunction...

...the EK standoff kit solves that but the plastic washers are a critical part for the right depth alignment...you might want to give EK a quick call and find out how thick those plastic washers are...once you know that, you can go the the hardware store and pick up plastic ones of that thickness, or even make your own...Home Depot would carry the right thickness of washers, just not sure if they have them in 'Plastic'. ...hope it works out smile.gif
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I personally dont think direct - die is that much better than having the ihs on. whats another 1 - 2c temp drop, i already dropped 30c . 2cents.gif
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I personally dont think direct - die is that much better than having the ihs on. whats another 1 - 2c temp drop, i already dropped 30c . 2cents.gif

His drop was rather massive...
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His drop was rather massive...

that guy had 96c on one core and yet 63c on another.

That's a whopping 33c difference between 2 of the 4 cores.
In other words - his mount was done INCORRECTLY.

I wouldn't trust that video, personally.
I did watch it before de-lidding though, but that's why I thought to create a video myself, showing you true results and a proper explanation (see OP)

EDIT:
And after the delid - due to him putting on "normal paste" he only really sees 5c.

When he says "this mod seems to have fixed this problem"
My reply would be:
"No, this re-sitting of your cooler fixed the problem, not a defective part from intel, nor the de-lidding".
Now if he were to put some CLU - I'm sure his temps would be around the 50 mark, rather than the 60's. thumb.gif
Edited by Totally Dubbed - 5/12/13 at 3:27pm
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