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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

32c temp drop

before delid and only 19 minutes tested on prime95

Very cool bro!
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Originally Posted by amd655 View Post

62c (Phenom II) is intel's 98c...

Amen.
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Well, my point still stands...95c is pretty safe for Ivy. 98c would be terrible for SB but for Ivy it's slightly hot.

hahahaha

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Originally Posted by stickg1 View Post

A couple things.
Recon I'm not sure what you're talking about with your SB and temps. What TD was talking about is the difference in core temps on the same chip at the same frequency. If you have a difference of 33C between core #0 and core #3 then chances are you mounted your cooler funky. However, Ivy bridge, it is possible that you remount your cooler a dozen times trying to fix the problem, but you can't because Intel mounted the IHS unevenly.

Mate today watching the game was emotional for me.
Sir Alex's words were beautiful.

In other news this is sensational -watch it till the end - it is the playoffs to the PL, semi-finals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JINFHeux3tM
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Originally Posted by amd655 View Post

One of my cores is always around 5-10c hotter than the one below it, and the next core down is always 10c hotter than the other 2, this happened with my Noctua NH-U9B-SE2 and this H100, but i am stuck with this problem as SB is soldered frown.gif

I have a 8c hotter core - it just is too cool for school.
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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

Mate today watching the game was emotional for me.
Sir Alex's words were beautiful.

In other news this is sensational -watch it till the end - it is the playoffs to the PL, semi-finals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JINFHeux3tM

I missed the game dammit, had family stuff going on and got side-tracked.

That was a wild finish. I'm glad they missed that penalty, I hate diving. Well unless it benefits my team LOL.
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...I suppose it comes down to a lot of factors, but if it helps, here are my "Sandy-E' cores at 100% load...there will always be some variance, but I have no idea what differential is considered 'normal and acceptable' by others - if it is over 7 or 8 C in Ivy or Sandy-E, I usually go back and look at the mount / IHS / TIM - or at least test out with pressure paper...

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Ok guys I need help real bad
Scenario:
a few days ago i've successfully delidded my ivy without the razor blade method, I've run it on my test bench with the same mobo and ram and it works, temp droped overall about 13c with air cooling
my current rig use water cooling, I decided to grab the EK naked ivy mounting thing
after I removed the clip (as instructed from EK) I moved on to install my cpu without the IHS and straight in touch with my waterblock (thats what the ek naked mount for right?)
installed it with my GPUs , sound card and mount it my case; and after some bleeding on the loop, when i turn it on, the rig didnt wanna start up! it has error code no 55 on the mobo number display (which is ram not installed)
i've tried changin the ram etc and still didnt work

just now I drained the loop and install the clip again and use air cooling just to see how it goes on my test bench (without GPUs and sound card)
amazingly IT STARTED UP!??

what did I do wrong??
should I just ditch the EK mounting thing and use the IHS instead?
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Originally Posted by jokrik View Post

Ok guys I need help real bad
Scenario:
a few days ago i've successfully delidded my ivy without the razor blade method, I've run it on my test bench with the same mobo and ram and it works, temp droped overall about 13c with air cooling
my current rig use water cooling, I decided to grab the EK naked ivy mounting thing
after remove the clip (as instructed from EK) I moved on to install my cpu without the IHS and straight in touch with my waterblock (thats what the ek naked mount for right?)
and after some bleeding on the loop, when i turn it on, the rig didnt wanna start up! it has error code no 55 on the mobo number display (which is ram not installed)
i've tried changin the ram etc and still didnt work

just now I drained the loop and install the clip again and use air cooling just to see how it goes on my test bench
amazingly IT STARTED UP!??

what did I do wrong??
should I just ditch the EK mounting thing and use the IHS instead?

I bet you put a bit to much pressure from the mounting using the naked kit. It happens sometimes, also maybe a slight bit of static was residing in the mobo, that seems to be my culprit.
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Originally Posted by Valgaur View Post

I bet you put a bit to much pressure from the mounting using the naked kit. It happens sometimes, also maybe a slight bit of static was residing in the mobo, that seems to be my culprit.
Should I just ditch the ek naked mount?
Am i looking at better temp when using the ek naked mount?

besides I've just tried to run my test bench with my gpu installed just to see if its causing the problem
seems like I can enter windows even with the gpu installed, however i find it abit funny that when i tried to shut down, it just kept restarting
FYI im using an extra PSU i've laying around
does the "restart" thing when shut down cause by bad deliding or just the PSU acting funny you think?
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Originally Posted by jokrik View Post

Should I just ditch the ek naked mount?
Am i looking at better temp when using the ek naked mount?

besides I've just tried to run my test bench with my gpu installed just to see if its causing the problem
seems like I can enter windows even with the gpu installed, however i find it abit funny that when i tried to shut down, it just kept restarting
FYI im using an extra PSU i've laying around
does the "restart" thing when shut down cause by bad deliding or just the PSU acting funny you think?

I would possibly give it another try and see if you cant mount it very lightly to the die instead of a tight mount. This way you can rule out the mounting pressure. Then see what happens and I highly doubt it was the delid process thats very very rare when someone uses the vice method. It could possibly be the PSU however.
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what did I do wrong??
should I just ditch the EK mounting thing and use the IHS instead?


What TIM are you using? Are you using the recommended block to match the EK mount? Did you mount it exactly with the hardware required by EK? Have you lapped your block?



My experience with bare die mount without the EK naked die mount is that you barely need any bolt down pressure. Just a gentle even hand tightness. I'm guessing 5-7 lbs torque pressure. I used Liquid Pro TIM with my mount with a super small drop of it on the die then with the same cotton tip applied thin even coat to the block area that makes contact with the die.


If you torque down too much the block may bow and not make even contact.


I got the same error 55 code the first time I mounted with TIM only applied to the die and torqued down too much. Also I use a .5mm thermal pad layer around the die directly on the pcb of the cpu to help add more surface are so that all the pressure isn't between the die and block and to help increase heat dissipation area on the pcb.


Photos of my custom bare die mount.











Also first part of my fitting testing included using contact paper pressure to determine best orientation of block and to verify proper contact. The pink color shows good contact after test.

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I would possibly give it another try and see if you cant mount it very lightly to the die instead of a tight mount. This way you can rule out the mounting pressure. Then see what happens and I highly doubt it was the delid process thats very very rare when someone uses the vice method. It could possibly be the PSU however.

+ REP!
problem solved, too much pressure on the cpu

I only half tight it smile.gif
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What TIM are you using? Are you using the recommended block to match the EK mount? Did you mount it exactly with the hardware required by EK? Have you lapped your block?



My experience with bare die mount without the EK naked die mount is that you barely need any bolt down pressure. Just a gentle even hand tightness. I'm guessing 5-7 lbs torque pressure. I used Liquid Pro TIM with my mount with a super small drop of it on the die then with the same cotton tip applied thin even coat to the block area that makes contact with the die.


If you torque down too much the block may bow and not make even contact.


I got the same error 55 code the first time I mounted with TIM only applied to the die and torqued down too much. Also I use a .5mm thermal pad layer around the die directly on the pcb of the cpu to help add more surface are so that all the pressure isn't between the die and block and to help increase heat dissipation area on the pcb.


Photos of my custom bare die mount.




Also first part of my fitting testing included using contact paper pressure to determine best orientation of block and to verify proper contact. The pink color shows good contact after test.


Yes I use the ek supremacy
and using CLU smile.gif
no worries thx for the advice, problem solved
too much pressure
cant wait to see the result

man I've been wasting 2 days on loop bleeding without noticing this problem
too tired to put all the loop together now, first world problem with water cooling
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