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Small update on my delidding adventure:
I managed to pop the die off without any damage to it AFAIK. However the IHS suffered a little bit and got some nasty indentations. I think I should be able to lap them so it is going to just take a little bit longer before I can use my rig again. If the IHS is beyond repair I'll haveto order the cheapest IVB celeron and steal the IHS from it. AFAIK the die is the same on all IVB cpus so shouldn't the IHS be the same too?

That's surprising. Those IHS are very thick
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@ dr/owned
wow 1.65v for 5.1 ghz thinking.gif how long have you been running it @ that voltage and what are your temps?

i need 1.65v for 5.4hgz biggrin.gif
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Can't you just use something like "dental floss" instead of a sharp knive? Just use the floss at the edges to cut through the IHS glue. It should make it much easier to then use the hammer method to remove the IHS (without distortion of IHS). And the dental floss should not be aggressiv enough to damage anything of the CPU at all (only the glue).
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Can't you just use something like "dental floss" instead of a sharp knive? Just use the floss at the edges to cut through the IHS glue. It should make it much easier to then use the hammer method to remove the IHS (without distortion of IHS). And the dental floss should not be aggressiv enough to damage anything of the CPU at all (only the glue).

Hmm.. that sounds like a 3rd and frankly really good method..
I might try that out once I get my CPU..
I wonder why this haven't been suggested anywhere?
 
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Hmm.. that sounds like a 3rd and frankly really good method..
I might try that out once I get my CPU..
I wonder why this haven't been suggested anywhere?

dental floss has been mentioned somewhere in these 18,000 posts tongue.gif
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@ dr/owned
wow 1.65v for 5.1 ghz thinking.gif how long have you been running it @ that voltage and what are your temps?

i need 1.65v for 5.4hgz biggrin.gif

Don't do it. My chip has degraded quite badly and needs to be replaced now....just a month or two of running at this voltage. Temps weren't the issue because of direct die + chilled water.

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FYI got ahold of the package mechanical drawing for 1150....it isn't published in the specs for some reason.

News flash: the IHS sealant thickness on Haswell has much stricter tolerances than it did for Ivy, where delidding might not even be needed. The IHS is also redesigned.

doh.gif noooope..... everything is the same with the IHS and the sealant. Every chip has a different amount of TIM based on production machines, it will never be the same. Also those IHS's.... yeah not new at all my IVY has them.... they are just re branded.

I'm telling you, the package mechanical drawing has changed noticeably from Ivy Bridge to Haswell. This document isn't publicly available yet (4th Generation Intel Core Processors and Intel Xeon Processor E3‐1200 v3 Product Family Package Mechanical Drawings), so I can't post it, but eventually it'll show up in Appendix B of this document: http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/guides/4th-gen-core-lga1150-socket-guide.pdf

It's a bit of a head scratcher why it's still unreleased.
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dental floss has been mentioned somewhere in these 18,000 posts tongue.gif

Hehe true.. It would probably be easy to overlook tongue.gif
tbh, I haven't read ALL of the posts in this thread, but the floss does sound like a good idea imo..
 
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Hehe true.. It would probably be easy to overlook tongue.gif
tbh, I haven't read ALL of the posts in this thread, but the floss does sound like a good idea imo..

Yeah I read it back a few months ago..
Not sure how well it'd go, I'll try it on a older gen CPU if I have any left as I need to buy some dental floss tongue.gif

EDIT: We got any delidded haswells yet? Also what's with the little resistors/components on top of the PCB? Maybe Intel is onto us delidders..
 
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Yeah I read it back a few months ago..
Not sure how well it'd go, I'll try it on a older gen CPU if I have any left as I need to buy some dental floss tongue.gif

EDIT: We got any delidded haswells yet? Also what's with the little resistors/components on top of the PCB? Maybe Intel is onto us delidders..

I just found the posts about it.. even though he said he was gonna do it and post pic etc, he never posted in this thread again frown.gif I gave him a PM in hope of some answers but he haven't been online for almost 2 weeks frown.gif
Wouldn't IHS be soldered on on older gen CPUs? I guess we would still know it it would go through the glue..

I should have the CPU later this week / early next week.. gonna do some pre delid temps first. so would guess dental floss mid~ next week? ! and move on to vice if it doesn't work out.
 
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^^ I don't think you will find floss thin enough to get under the IHS. Even if you do, it probably won't be strong enough to do anything without snapping. No reason not to start with the vise method.
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