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Originally Posted by Valgaur View Post

look at the caps on the top left closer buddy I believe they are damaged. If I'm mistaken tell me tongue.gif

...could be...hard to tell. But at least it is worth a shot to try the 'cover w/MX' (or nail polish) trick before it is just a, what, light-weight paper weight ?
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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post

Well, delidded mine tonight (4770K).  Used the vice and hammer method - the first three knocks or so didn't seem to do anything, so I gave it one more good whack and the chip flew clean out of the vice.  Luckily I had heard the story of the other guy that happened to and put a towel behind the vice, but I was still pretty worried about knocking those surface mount components off.  Turns out to be fine, but I'm still stuck using MX-3 on the die until the CLU comes in next week, so I only got a 5-10C reduction.  Currently testing at 4.4 @ 1.33V (although it idles at 0.750V) so it appears I didn't get the greatest chip.  Still some tweaking to do though.

By the way - how does everyone keep the IHS centered while fastening the socket clip thing?  The one on the Gigabyte board is the kind that sort of slides into place, and it keeps moving the IHS when I lock it down.
I used to do the place the IHS high and have the clamp slide it down method, then I found that I could simply use one finger to firmly hold the IHS in place right where I wanted it. Then I could clamp it down without it moving. Took a few tries to figure out how firmly to hold it so it wouldn’t move, but it really wasn’t that difficult.

I find this method not only easier but better in the fact I don’t want the IHS moving around too much and messing up my CLU application on the die. It works very well on my MVF, but I can’t say if other mobos have clamping mechanism that would work or not.
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It is really thin on both die and IHS, just on the IHS I perhaps wiped it over a bigger area than necessary. But just in case I'll wipe it all off and start again.

Still my actual question was: is it bad to leave some on the PCB?
Indeed. Two or three sharp taps with the hammer and it's loose. I was surprised how easy that was.
Sorry, yes it ok to have a tiny bit here or there on the pcb of an Ivy chip. How I do it is paint the die with the included brush, then with what is left on the brush I put a very thin amount on the underside of the die, more of staining really. Usually there is the prior stain from the Intel TIM on the underside so you can see where the die will come in contact with it.

Then I take a q-tip with isopropyl alcohol and clean up the pcb since I find it impossible to paint the die properly without getting any traces of CLU on the die. But if somehow I don’t get every possible speck of CLU off the pcb there is nothing bad that will happen. Now with Haswell though, I would be worried about covering those contacts and not getting any CLU on them.
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yes it ok to have a tiny bit here or there on the pcb of an Ivy chip.

Thanks, this is what I wanted to know. thumb.gif

So actually I'm going to leave those spills and if it shorts or melts or something, I'll come back and let everyone know not to do that smile.gif
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Delidded my 3570k (4.5Ghz, 1.18v) earlier today.

Pre-delid temps on a standard IBT (10) run were around 72ºC.

So, I took my vice, a hammer and a piece of wood. Couple of hits later the PCB eased itself loose.
Cleaned all surfaces nicely and added a layer of MX-4 to the die, didn't look like it was soaked though after I evened it out.
Put everything back together and added another layer of MX-4 between the IHS and True Spirit 120, again, no soaking.

Ran the same IBT run, temps were around 85ºC

I've read that some TIM's need to be broken in and they only give their best after a period of time. Could this be the case? I can't think of any explanation other than this.
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Originally Posted by JSTe View Post

Delidded my 3570k (4.5Ghz, 1.18v) earlier today.

Pre-delid temps on a standard IBT (10) run were around 72ºC.

So, I took my vice, a hammer and a piece of wood. Couple of hits later the PCB eased itself loose.
Cleaned all surfaces nicely and added a layer of MX-4 to the die, didn't look like it was soaked though after I evened it out.
Put everything back together and added another layer of MX-4 between the IHS and True Spirit 120, again, no soaking.

Ran the same IBT run, temps were around 85ºC

I've read that some TIM's need to be broken in and they only give their best after a period of time. Could this be the case? I can't think of any explanation other than this.
We don’t use standard TIMs on the die, we just use liquid metal TIMs llike CL Ultra or Pro. I am guessing you used way too much MX-4 on the die to get measurably worse temps. Usually people get about the same or less than a 10c drop with standard TIMs on the die. Order yourself some CL Ultra, and try redoing the MX-4 on the die while waiting.
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Hey guys I plan on getting a 4770k in about 2weeks, I was hopping to get a couple of these to try out first "INTEL SL9KK Celeron D 3.467GHz/512/533 Socket 775 " Can these be delidded?
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Hooray, I am in business with the 2nd processor. I did CLU on die and on the IHS. I am going to run Memtest86 for a week before I do anything.

I am running a Corsair Carbide 300R with a Noctua NH-D14 and Corsair Dominator GT RAM. I took of the heat sinks off the ram, but I still can't mount the fan low enough mount the side panel. /facepalm. The heat spreader is too tall because it is threaded for the heat sink screws. Correction, the 140mm Corsair AF-140 side panel fans are hitting the Noctua heatsink fins, not the fan
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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post

Well, delidded mine tonight (4770K).  Used the vice and hammer method - the first three knocks or so didn't seem to do anything, so I gave it one more good whack and the chip flew clean out of the vice. ...

By the way - how does everyone keep the IHS centered while fastening the socket clip thing?  The one on the Gigabyte board is the kind that sort of slides into place, and it keeps moving the IHS when I lock it down.

...that's easy, VonDutch, one of the '...originals" put s.th. in the OP way back smile.gif ...I kept on having the IHS on my delidded chip slide all over the place (very frustrating) until I actually went back to P1 and read that bit...

"Helpful tips about putting your Delided CPU back in the socket!(Courtesy of VonDutch)

...one tip after you done delidding and putting your processor back,
we noticed, that if you put down the bracket again, the IHS will slide a bit forward,

it will do so whatever tim you use,
except if you use a new/other adhesive/glue also

The trick is to start a bit more to the back when placing the IHS back, i think about 0.5- 1mm will do..
lower the load plate until it sits loosely on the top of the CPU package, check if its all good
Now lower it careful until you can snap it under
the stub holder on the side of the socket.
Lowering the lever takes a bit of force because you are compressing the load plate,
which in turn forces the CPU down tightly on the landing pins.

i held it with my finger in the middle if the IHS, but dont forget to clean it again
after youre done(fingerprints)

really, i tried to move it with a screwdriver afterwards, but could not move it,
so you have to get it right, before the lever is under the stub.
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I just want to see some Haswell overclocks... Air/water please.. Nothing under 1.4v.. and delidded. Is that really too much to ask. What is taking everyone so long.. I woulda had my OC done the first night.. Send me paypal for a chip and motherboard and I will post tomorrow smile.gif
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