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I don't think you are going to get 1.4V+ with any kind of normal cooling, even delidded.  They get hot fast.

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Originally Posted by JSTe View Post

Delidded my 3570k (4.5Ghz, 1.18v) earlier today.

Pre-delid temps on a standard IBT (10) run were around 72ºC.

So, I took my vice, a hammer and a piece of wood. Couple of hits later the PCB eased itself loose.
Cleaned all surfaces nicely and added a layer of MX-4 to the die, didn't look like it was soaked though after I evened it out.
Put everything back together and added another layer of MX-4 between the IHS and True Spirit 120, again, no soaking.

Ran the same IBT run, temps were around 85ºC

I've read that some TIM's need to be broken in and they only give their best after a period of time. Could this be the case? I can't think of any explanation other than this.
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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

We don’t use standard TIMs on the die, we just use liquid metal TIMs llike CL Ultra or Pro. I am guessing you used way too much MX-4 on the die to get measurably worse temps. Usually people get about the same or less than a 10c drop with standard TIMs on the die. Order yourself some CL Ultra, and try redoing the MX-4 on the die while waiting.

I used mx-4 on die when I first delidded the 3770k before the CLU arrived, not as much temp drop as with the CLU, but there was a temp drop. I would guess either too much or not enough paste, temps should not be going up, has to be a paste/mount issue.
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Originally Posted by aweisberg View Post

Hooray, I am in business with the 2nd processor. I did CLU on die and on the IHS. I am going to run Memtest86 for a week before I do anything.

I am running a Corsair Carbide 300R with a Noctua NH-D14 and Corsair Dominator GT RAM. I took of the heat sinks off the ram, but I still can't mount the fan low enough mount the side panel. /facepalm. The heat spreader is too tall because it is threaded for the heat sink screws. Correction, the 140mm Corsair AF-140 side panel fans are hitting the Noctua heatsink fins, not the fan

Memtest86 for a week.

What?
Why?
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I just want to see some Haswell overclocks... Air/water please.. Nothing under 1.4v.. and delidded. Is that really too much to ask. What is taking everyone so long.. I woulda had my OC done the first night.. Send me paypal for a chip and motherboard and I will post tomorrow smile.gif

Limited to air/water, nothing under 1.4V, & delidded. Yes, it is too much to ask.

water, but not 1.4V + & not delidded


1.4V +, but not air/water, or delidded

    
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Memtest86 for a week.

What?
Why?
I have the occasional failure after 3-4 days. I don't have a video card yet so all I am doing now is validating the memory and then overclocking. I am waiting to see what Nvidia 780 options roll in.

I did get bored and try out overclocking and validating with merssenne.org. I will run that overnight and then go back to memtest86. I also believe the memory is operating at 2133Mhz, but I don't have a utility on hand to display it. This is at 1.2 volts.

th_556443251_Screenshotfrom2013_06_06181721_122_214lo.jpg

I haven't overclocked in ages so I was suprised that with turboboost it is impossible to set a fixed clock? I couldn't figure out how to disable turboboost and set the CPU to 4.6Ghz.
Edited by aweisberg - 6/6/13 at 3:30pm
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I used mx-4 on die when I first delidded the 3770k before the CLU arrived, not as much temp drop as with the CLU, but there was a temp drop. I would guess either too much or not enough paste, temps should not be going up, has to be a paste/mount issue.
...

water, but not 1.4V + & not delidded


1.4V +, but not air/water, or delidded


...leave it to FtW, or is that FtW 20 - no wait it is FtW 420 - sorry, that 'multiple personality thing again (per MrTooshort's Valley post)...anyways, congrats thumb.gif that's the first time I have seen a Haswell match some of the Ivy in terms of speed smile.gif
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@FtW 420
what cooling was used in benching ?
    
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1.4V +, but not air/water, or delidded


and what were the temps? guess you dont need real temp showing biggrin.gif
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...leave it to FtW, or is that FtW 20 - no wait it is FtW 420 - sorry, that 'multiple personality thing again (per MrTooshort's Valley post)...anyways, congrats thumb.gif that's the first time I have seen a Haswell match some of the Ivy in terms of speed smile.gif

the 4600Mhz screen was from the same time, I did fix it for the 5200. I still hope the chip has more in it, there is voltage headroom, just have to learn the board better. The basics are still basics, but a lot more bios setting options in z87.
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@FtW 420
what cooling was used in benching ?
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and what were the temps? guess you dont need real temp showing biggrin.gif

In the benches without realtemp it was cascade cooled (phase change). Realtemp doesn't read under 0° so no point in leaving it open.
    
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I have a delidded 3770k that won't boot. 09 error on MSI board which is soutbridge initialization. Same problem on 2 boards although the other (ASUS) doesn't have the code LEDs. Latest bios on both. Don't know what else to do. Any suggestions?
    
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I have a delidded 3770k that won't boot. 09 error on MSI board which is soutbridge initialization. Same problem on 2 boards although the other (ASUS) doesn't have the code LEDs. Latest bios on both. Don't know what else to do. Any suggestions?

Did it work fine before delidding? If so try a single stick in each channel, a few people have killed a memory channel while delidding.

edit: also check the socket pins & make sure none are bent, likely not the issue if it's with more than one board, but never hurts to double check.
Also, an MSI z77 board, or is it p67/z68? those may need a bios update, they can throw weird debug codes when not updated before dropping in an ivy.
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So after taking the lid off my e1200 as a test i was putting my 3570k through its paces. For months now i've been at 4.5 @ 1.24v prime/ibt stable, the chip will boot at 4.7 or 4.8 with 1.35v, but i keep upping it and im at 1.4v in the bios now and 4.7 ghz at that voltage hardly gets through one pass of ibt, not to mention temps instantly sky rocket. Is it even worth delidding tbh?
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